[B-Greek] Romans 5
George F Somsel
gfsomsel at juno.com
Thu Jun 16 10:16:46 EDT 2005
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Eric Weiss
<papaweiss1 at yahoo.com> writes:
> > 6. ONTWN hHMWN ASQENWN . . . APEQANEN.
> > 8. hAMARTWLWN ONTWN hHMWN . . . APEQANEN
> >
> > What we have in vv. 6, 8 is a genitive absolute which functions
> > adverbially in relation to the main verb APEQANEN -- "while we
> were weak
> > / sinners . . . he died." The adverbial usage here is generally
> temporal
> > (see Wallace, pp. 654, 55).
>
> And, being temporal, it would likely coincide timewise with APEQANEN
> ("died" ... "we were").
>
> But must it coincide timewise with APEQANEN - i.e., does the aorist
> APEQANEN rule out
> translating the genitive absolutes as presents (i.e., "we are"
> versus "we were")? After all, Paul
> continues his argument with ECQROI ONTWN in 5:10, which is not a
> genitive absolute
> (ECQROI is nominative).
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Yes, being temporal it does coincide with APEQANEN. Your example of
5.10 is a different construction -- the nominative absolute. Whereas the
genitive absolute is adverbial and circumstantial ("while we were weak /
sinners, he died"), the nominative absolute which is not circumstantial
but substantival and describes the subject ("we who were enemies have
been").
george
gfsomsel
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