[B-Greek] Re: klaiw

Carl Conrad cwconrad2 at mac.com
Sun Jun 26 20:43:25 EDT 2005


On Jun 26, 2005, at 8:07 PM, cmeadows3 at verizon.net wrote:

> George,
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> The section in Smyth is 520.  I guess I'm wondering why, if the  
> root was kla3, is the future klausomai?  Using the example of oida  
> (from 3e3ida) - it seems the digamma just vanishes.  Where does the  
> "u" come from?

I prefer to use "f" for digamma and keep to our standard BG  
transliteration scheme; as I noted earlier the root of OIDA is fEID/ 
fOID/fID (or if you'd prefer the lower-case "w" since it better  
represents the sound of the digamma: wEID/wOID/wID.

Now the root of KLAIW is KLAf or KLAw; what happens with the digamma  
is that it evanesces between vowel-sounds KLAw-yW, but it vocalizes  
before a consonant: KLAw-SW --> KLAU-SW. The same thing happens with  
BASILEUS: genitive BASILHwOS --> BASILHOS, which, with vocalic  
metathesis of the HO to EW becomes BASILEWS, but the nominative is  
BASILEU-S, dat. pl. BASILEU-SI.


>> From: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at juno.com>
>> Date: Sun Jun 26 16:27:50 CDT 2005
>> To: cmeadows3 at verizon.net
>> Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Re: klaiw
>>
>
>
>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:25:28 -0500 (CDT) <cmeadows3 at verizon.net>  
>> writes:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> A question about the old vau (digamma)...
>>>
>>> Looking at klaiw - future kausomai.
>>>
>>> I guess the stem was originally klaf.  Smyth writes it as "(klau,
>>> klaf)".  Is it correct to say that vau WAS consonantal upsilon?  Or
>>> was there a separate entity?  What does Smyth mean when he lists the
>>> stem as both klau and klaf?
>>>
>>> Thanx.
>>>
>>> C Meadows
>>> Marshall University
>>>
>> ___________________
>>
>> If you will accept the number "3" as a digamma, the root was KLA3-yW
>> where the "y" is the i-glide.  Please cite the section number when
>> referring to Smyth.
>>
>> george
>> gfsomsel
>> ___________
>>
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Carl W. Conrad
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