[B-Greek] Perfect Passive Participles
Minton, Ron
rminton at bible.edu
Fri May 6 12:07:06 EDT 2005
Often perf. P. ptcpls. and even perf. Pass. Ind can be translated by a
simple is or are. In Eph. 2:8 the force is the current state. You
could translate "You are now in a saved state which has resulted from
being saved in the past" Or, you could translate "you are saved."
Gegraptai "it is written" doesn't mean it was, it had been, it is being.
It means it was written in the past and it stands in a written state
now. Therefore "it is written" usually works fine. BTW, the perfect
tense itself does not guarantee how long something will continue or
last.
Ron Minton
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[mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of David Bielby
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Subject: [B-Greek] Perfect Passive Participles
I'm a bit fuzzy on Perfect Passive Participles. I'm having trouble
finding
a good summary in my books.
The verse in question is:
Ephesians 2:8
TH GAR XARITI ESTE SESWSMENOI DIA PISTEWS...
My question essentially is how should the Perfect Passive Participle be
interpreted here?
Should we make a big deal about past, present and future time
application or
is this more like
an intensified global aorist or something else?
For example: Does Paul mean that we have been saved, are being saved
and
will be saved.
or is it simply a strong way of saying we have been saved.
Thanks for any insight on this.
David Bielby
<mailto:dbielby at bloomingtonvineyard.org>
dbielby at bloomingtonvineyard.org
Pasto
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