[B-Greek] tongues - languages

Eric Weiss papaweiss1 at yahoo.com
Thu May 26 14:52:48 EDT 2005


> The disclosed fact in Acts 2:3 KAI WFQHSAN AUTOIS 
> DIAMERIZOMENAI GLWSSAI WSEI PUROS KAI EKAQISEN EF 
> hENA hEKASTON AUTWN exhibits contextually that this 
> phenomenon is absent elsewhere in Scripture.  This 
> is an interpretive hint from Scripture itself.
>
- - -
> 
> Dear Mrs. Kline,
> 
> Actually that is not a correct understanding of 
> either Hans Conzelmann or his world view.  
> Conzelmann told me (an others) ,,die Bibel sei 
> unfehlbar." (the Bible is infallible).  He also 
> believed and wrote accordingly that Jesus was in 
> fact God incarnate. The scientific doubt that 
> Conzelmann proposed in context was to be utilized as

> a safeguard against presumptous unfounded inferences

> from the text itself. 
>
> If one wishes to be gullible either with oneself or 
> others like those mentioned in Jn 21:23 then that of

> course is their perrogative.  It is constantly being

> perpetuated.  This is what Conzelmann's 
> wissenschaftlicher Zweifel was meant to guard 
> against - fideism.  "Jesus came to save us from or 
> sins, not to take away our minds."
> 
> Cordially in Christ,
>  
> Malcolm Robertson
> 
> Elizabeth Kline <kline-dekoning at earthlink.net> 
> wrote: 
On 5/26/05 8:20 AM, "malcolm robertson" wrote:

> I would simply counsel him to exercise what Han 
> Conzelmann called the wissenschaftlicher Zweifel 
> (scientific doubt) ...
> 
> ... and why should Eric Weiss be required to accept 
> the modernist positivist
> perspective on the world which is the ideological 
> context of
> "wissenschaftlicher Zweifel" ...
> 
> This is off topic for this forum so I will desist.
> 
> Elizabeth Kline 


Y'all are speaking in tongues! ;^)

FYI - My comments and conclusion about LALEIN GLWSSAIS
are in no way affected by the attendent tongues of
fire at Pentecost. I was referring to the nature of
the language the apostles (or 120) spoke, not the
context or accompanying events in which they received
or spoke their spirit-inspired utterances. Granted,
Pentecost was unique in some ways (as the context and
your comments indicate), but Peter equated the
incident at Cornelius' house with the events at
Pentecost. Again, all I am saying is that I have
concluded from studying the Greek (and commentaries,
too) that the Acts and I Corinthians passages about
LALEIN GLWSSAIS do not seem to me to *conclusively*
support that the kinds of utterances at Pentecost were
of a different or much different nature than what is
elsewhere in the New Testament referred to as LALEIN GLWSSAIS.

Eric S. Weiss



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