[B-Greek] Semantic Structural Analysis Software?

ne0phlte at aol.com ne0phlte at aol.com
Fri May 27 15:29:04 EDT 2005


 Hey there, 
 
I'm sorry for my miscommunication.  I should have been more specific.  I wasn't asking for a program that would do it all for me, but simply one that I could work with to create SSA's that are modifiable and orderly.  Something that works similiar to the diagramming modules in Logos or BibleWorks, but that is specifically designed to do SSA would be so helpful, it takes forever to do it by hand.  I appreciate everybody's response's, it is great to hear everybody's thoughts and to get some advice!  I"ll be looking around on the web some more for some software and i'll let ya'll know if I find anything.  Sorry again for being unclear.
 
Thanks, 
 
Frank Gazerro
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Sangrey <MSangrey at BlueFeltHat.org>
To: Biblical Greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:54:32 -0400
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Semantic Structural Analysis Software?


On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 14:03 -0400, George F Somsel wrote:
> On Fri, 27 May 2005 13:47:12 -0400 ne0phlte at aol.com writes:
> > Hello, 
> >  
> > Does anybody know of any software that assists the user in analyzing 
> > the semantic structure of a text?  Any help would be greatly 
> > appreciated.  Thanks.
> >  
> > Frank Gazerro
> ______________
> 
> I believe some such facility is under development by Logos / Libronix,
> but I hesitate to relinquish the analysis of noun / adjectival forms,
> parsing of verbs, identification of root forms and finally syntax itself
> to a program.  This is not the way you learn the language.  I find it
> very similar to the situation I encounter all to often when some use
> Strongs and then insist that their view is the only correct understanding
> of a passage based on their understanding of Strongs.  Avoid reliance on
> crutches.  Crutches are fine ** on ocassion ** if you really need some **
> temporary ** help, but not as a practice.
> 
> george
> gfsomsel

This is a good point, George (and also Carl); but, ISTM that Frank is
asking for software that will help HIM do the analysis.  For example,
many people use something like MS Word to capture the results of their
analysis.  But, that is highly cumbersome at best and almost falls under
the moniker of a 'write-only' document.  Being able to build a formally
defined result of some analysis, and one that is modifiable, would be
VERY helpful.  We need to think of Franks question in the same terms as
what Gramcord (I think) provides with its diagramming tool.

Also, being helped to do the analysis, and being able to provide to
others the artifacts of that analysis, would be very helpful in gaining
a better understanding of the language.  Generally, discussions of "what
the Greek means" struggle to rise above the level of syntax and  word
meanings.  It would be quite helpful to be able to discuss formal
analysis (plural!) of a Greek text in a forum such as this at the
semantic level.  The end result would be a much better understanding of
how the Greek works.  In other words, knowing the semantics of a
sentence or paragraph (or even discourse!) would go a LONG way to
improving the understanding of the syntax and how the syntax supports
the semantics.  Knowing how that complex works is EXACTLY what extensive
exposure to the Greek is meant to accomplish.  Somewhat ironically, ISTM
that is what George and Carl are actually desirous of in other learners
of Greek.

I've wanted what Frank is asking for for several years now.
Unfortunately, when it finally comes out I probably won't be able to
afford it.

-- 
Mike Sangrey
msangrey AT BlueFeltHat.org
Landisburg, Pa.
                        "The first one last wins."
            "A net of highly cohesive details reveals the truth."

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