[B-Greek] GENNAW

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad2 at mac.com
Sun May 29 08:26:29 EDT 2005


 
On Saturday, May 28, 2005, at 04:05PM, Oun Kwon <kwonbbl at gmail.com> wrote:

>This discussion has been a lot of learning to me.
>
>I am a little uneasy but this questin has been bugging me so long.  I
>think this would be the best chance to take.  Is this question of mine
>allowed? I hope it is within the boundary of b-Greek.
>
>
>Seeing the same (? similar) expression used both for the believers and
>the Son of God, such as in
>
>1Jn 4:18a PAS hO GEGENNHMENOS EK TOU QEOU (every one having been born from God)
>
>and 1Jn 4:18b  hO GENNHQEIS EK TOU QEOU (the One having been born from God),
>
>what would be relation of the God and the Son of  God [=Christ] in
>terms of GENNAW?  Can we say He (the Son) is begotten (= born) of God,
>while He is not created by God [in orthodox thinking]?
>
>[I am NOT referring to MONOGENOS.]

I suppose you mean MONOGENHS.

As I'm away and without direct access to a GNT, I can't readily put my finger
on the relevant texts, but the proposition is unquestionably Johannine (and 
evident elsewhere within the GNT outside of the Johannine books) that Jesus
himself is generated (GEGENNHMENOS, GENNHQEIS -- I don't think there's any significant
difference between the perfect and aorist participles here) "out-of/from/by" God and
that believers are also so GEGENNHMENOI or GENNHQENTES (= GENNHQEISAI), so that
believers are brothers and sisters of Christ and all children of the Father.

Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
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