[B-Greek] Third-person commands & Ezra 1:3

Donald Vance donaldrvance at mac.com
Sat Nov 12 00:58:06 EST 2005


Is it possible that in the two fut indic, the translator is suggesting 
an element of option, but the aorist impv for the third verb is 
because, if one goes up, one MUST build? In other words, those who want 
to can go up, but you don't have to go up. However, if you go up, you 
must build. There is nothing like that implicit in the grammar of the 
Hebrew; there is simply a string of three marked jussives joined with 
conjunctive waw.

Donald R. Vance, Ph.D.
Professor of Biblical Languages and Literature
Oral Roberts University
dvance at oru.edu
donaldrvance at mac.com
On Nov 11, 2005, at 11:31 PM, Dr. Don Wilkins wrote:

> Ezra 1:3 is interesting, because OIKODOMHSATW is the easier
> construction. There are three 3p jussives in the Hebrew, "Let/may his
> God be with him," "let him go up," and "let him rebuild". The LXX has
> fut. ind 3p for the first two. I'm not sure what thinking the first
> one reflects on the part of the translator; but the second one only
> makes sense if it is a jussive future, I think. Otherwise the king is
> predicting instead of proclaiming an edict. So if that's a command,
> it is reasonable to have the 3p imperative for "rebuild" as a
> command. Besides, this would be a routine formal equivalent for the
> Hebrew jussive. Now one could make the same suggestion here that I
> did for 1 Cor. 5:17, i.e. that there may be an unspoken implication
> that no one is to hinder the emigration and rebuilding project, since
> the king clearly favors it all. But I would still maintain that this
> is not a element of the grammar of the 3p imperative.
>
> Don Wilkins
>
> On Nov 11, 2005, at 6:49 PM, kgraham0938 at comcast.net wrote:
> ...
>
>>
>> In regards to Matt 9:27, sorry I misread that one, I was looking
>> for examples of imperatives that were not commands, but forgot to
>> look waht person it was.  Another one that seems to be interesting
>> is Ezra 1:3 OIKODMHSATW (Let him go up and rebuild..) is an aorist
>> imperative 3rd person, and I don't think this one is a command.
>>
>> ANABAINW is not a jussive but is used for veya'al = "let him go up
>> "which is one.
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