[B-Greek] grammatical structure of Luke 2.27

kgraham0938 at comcast.net kgraham0938 at comcast.net
Wed Oct 5 12:16:13 EDT 2005


I don't know if there is an actual 'name' for them, I know Wallace speaks about them in his book.  If you have it I can give you pg numbers.

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Kelton Graham 
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> >> Hello, 
> >> I have a problem in understanding the grammatical structure of the 
> >> following: 
> >> KAI EN TW EISAGAGEIN TOUS GONEIS TO PAIDION IHSOUN TOU POIHSAI AUTOUS 
> >> KATA... 
> >> 
> >> More precisely the two bolt typed pronouns have caused me to be confused. 
> >> According to my understanding of this passage, the first pronoun should 
> >> be in 
> >> the Genitive case ("In the bringing in of s.b.") and the the second one 
> >> even 
> >> could be omitted or replaced by a subjunctive construction ("in order to 
> >> do 
> >> sth."). So why is there Akkusative and Genitive? An ACI-construction is 
> >> quite 
> >> unlikely because there is no verb to introduce it. 
> >> 
> >> Thanks for your Help! 
> >> Walde 
> > 
> > Response: I think I get what you are asking, let me know if I don't 
> > answer you. The first constuction is EN + TWi + infinitive gives a 
> > contemporaneous idea of "when, while, as etc.) So in Luke KAI [EN TWi 
> > EISAYAYEIN] TOUS GENEIS "when the parents brought the child..." The 
> > subject of the infinitive is in the accusative so TOUS GENEIS is the 
> > subject of the infinitive EISAGAGEIN. 
> > 
> > The second part is TOU + infinitive = purpose. Whenever you see this 
> > construction it is a purpose clause. TOU POIHSAI AUTOUS" in order to do 
> > for him..." 
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> Hi, 
> thanks for Your answer. The mailing list obviously does not support bolt 
> typed letters. I did not realize this. Sorry. 
> I think that you understood my problem. Is there a particular name for the 
> grammatical constructions, you describe? I would like to read something 
> about this in my grammar book. 
> 
> Walde 
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