[B-Greek] translation of Mark 5:7

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at ioa.com
Wed Oct 26 14:44:12 EDT 2005


On Oct 26, 2005, at 2:08 PM, Dan Gleason wrote:

> KAI KRACAS FWNH MEGALH LEGEI ...
> And crying-out to-sound great he-says ...

i.e. KAI KRAXAS FWNHi MEGALHi LEGEI

     FWNHi MEGALHi is an instrumental dative: "with a loud sound"

> TI ___ EMOI KAI SOI IHSOU UIE TOU QEOU TOU UYISTOU
> What ... to-me and to-you Jesus son of-the most-high God!
> he goes on to say ... I implore you, by God, don't torture me!
>
> My question is, how to translate the first part of what the  
> demoniac says to
> Jesus.
>
> Are the words ... TI ___ EMOI KAI SOI ... a colloquial expression?
> Many bibles translate ... TI ___ EMOI KAI SOI ... as "What have I  
> to do with
> you"
> To me, I think this paraphrase is not accurate.

It's ordinary Engllish expressing the meaning  rather thanan   
intralinear word-for-word version
>
> It seems to me that the expession ... TI EMOI KAI SOI ... is  
> missing a verb
> but that the verb is implied and supposedly obvious.
>
> Is this a text ellipsis? - I don't think so.
> Was the text purposely written this way? - I think it was.
> If I am correct, what would be a good candidate for the missing verb?

There seems to be some confusion here: this IS ellipsis and a kind that
is more common in Greek than any other: the omission of ESTIN --
we should understand this text as TI ESTIN EMOI KAI SOI, i.e.,
"What is there to me and to you?" i.e. "What have I to do with you"
or "What business is there between myself and you?"

For further info on this I'd suggest you look at BDAG s.v. TIS  
1.BETA. He: "elliptical expressions"

Carl W. Conrad
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