[B-Greek] Translation of Mark 5:7
Dan Gleason
dan-bgreek at hotmail.com
Fri Oct 28 13:11:14 EDT 2005
Curtis Hinson wrote: You could consider trying out some more colloquial,
dynamic English translations to see how that goes. Using the hypens does
not reflect the way the entences occur to the Greek-speaking mind, which are
as fluent, fluid contructions. I doubt they do much to enhance your
understanding of the Greek either.
DG: Thank you and everyone else for your excellent contributions.
DG: Right now I am working on my own translation of Mark. Here are a few of
my guidelines ... I am trying to translate like an interlinear with word to
word correspondence when at all possible (this is why I use hyphens) ... no
paraphrasing allowed (I do that in footnotes) ... use english word order
when a Greek word needs to be dropped (tous mathetas autou = his disciples)
... use hyphens to point out embedded words and change of word order (ouk
oiden autos = he-does- not -know it). And I have a few more conventions not
applicable to this thread.
CH: .. TI EMOI KAI SOI IHSOU UIE TOU QEOU TOU UYISTOU
He cried out loudly, "What do you want from me, Jesus, son of the God most
high?
DG: my revised translation now reads .. .
And crying-out with-a- great -voice he-says ... What (is-happening-between)
me and you Jesus, son of-the most-high God!
CH: (A historic or narrative present.) I like your use of "implore" (see
DG's initial post), that captures the text very well. Now regarding your
question, TI EMOI KAI SOI, this is a common Semitism in Judeo-Greek (Jewish
Koine). "What of you and me" would be a so-called "literal" way to look at
it, which itself is a translation, mah liy walakh. It IS a colloquial
expression though and there is no point in translating it "literally" into
English. I would render it as, "What do you want with me?" or "What have
you got to do with me?" or something to that effect.
DG: I agree, a literal translation of colloquial Semetic expressions is a
challenge - a good place for a footnote.
CH: (One thought: is UIE TOU QEOU UYISTOU a divine circumlocution by the
demon? How might that sound in Aramaic or Hebrew? Is the name/power game
(as in Mesopotamian culture) going on between the demon and Jesus?
DG: I defineitely agree with your observation of the ancient belief that
calling on the Name of something or issuing an Order resulted in something
happening. The belief that this was a method how a person released the
"power" (dunamis or exousia) inside him.
CH: I wrote something on this text once, I might send it over to you later.
DG: Yes, send it to me off line.
Dan Gleason
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