[B-Greek] question re: authentein andros

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at ioa.com
Thu Sep 29 12:04:30 EDT 2005


On Sep 29, 2005, at 10:10 AM, greg coupe wrote:

> Dear Sir,
>
> I just had a question about some words in 1 Tim 2:12. Could you  
> please tell
> me, can the words "authentein andros" be interpreted to mean "To be  
> self
> working (which is the task) of man."
> or "to be engaging in male self-working."???

I take it you're suggesting that ANDROS is a subjective genitive to  
be construed with the infinitive AUQENTEIN. That has at least the  
virtue of being a novel notion -- it is certainly a new notion to me;  
ordinarily the dative GUNAIKI is deemed necessarily to be the subject  
of AUQENTEIN and ANDROS as that over which the action of AUQENTEIN is  
exercised and I would be in full agreement with that standard view. I  
suggest you look at the voluminous discussions of this phrase  
(AUQENTEIN ANDROS) in the B-Greek archives -- it has not lacked for  
long and heated discussion.

Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
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