[B-Greek] Mark 3:14

kgraham0938 at comcast.net kgraham0938 at comcast.net
Wed Apr 12 22:57:03 EDT 2006


@ Elizabeth:

I think GGBB is a good grammar, if you look at it Wallace gives several examples of iterative presents and only uses Mk 3:14 as a cf.  So I can see how one can get some of his illustrations mixed up.  To be honest though the only grip I have with GGBB is that it is a bit theological in it's nature.  Which is ok, but I think one should realize that when they get it. But I've been pleased with it overall.
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Kelton Graham 
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-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Elizabeth Kline <kline-dekooning at earthlink.net> 

> 
> On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:24 PM, Norman Wood wrote: 
> 
> > Wallace in Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics gives a description of 
> > the iterative present. 
> > "The present tense may be used to describe an event that repeatedly 
> > happens"(pg 520). He suggests Mark 3:14 as an example and the only 
> > present that I can see is the present subjunctive INA WSIN MET AUTOU. 
> > Does this mean that the present subjunctive means that they would 
> > be with him not continuously, but again and again ie they would be 
> > with him, then not, then back with him over and over again?Or have 
> > I got the wrong bit? 
> > Any thoughts would be welcome. 
> > Thanks 
> > Norman Wood 
> > Scotland 
> 
> Norman, 
> 
> MARK 3:14 KAI EPOIHSEN DWDEKA [hOUS KAI APOSTOLOUS WNOMASEN] 
> hINA WSIN MET' AUTOU KAI hINA APOSTELLHi AUTOUS KHRUSSEIN 
> 
> I suspect Wallace is looking at APOSTELLHi. Having followed many 
> discussions in this forum that start out with some misleading 
> statement from the grammar you are using, I wonder why anyone would 
> use it as at textbook. However I find nothing wrong with the 
> quotation "The present tense may be used to describe an event that 
> repeatedly happens" as long as it is made very very clear that 
> iterativity is not a semantic feature of the present tense. People 
> who set out to write reference grammars should have a solid 
> background in linguistics. I suspect that is why GGBB causes some 
> much confusion. 
> 
> 
> Elizabeth Kline 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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