[B-Greek] KAQWS & ORATIO OBLIQUA Acts 15:4
Carl W. Conrad
cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Thu Aug 10 16:29:41 EDT 2006
I confess to be guessing here, but my guess is consistent with what I
know of Hellenistic usage:
hWS was already commonly used in earlier (classical Attic) Greek as
an equivalent of hOTI to introduce indirect discourse as KAQWS is
used in Acts 15:4.
KATA/KAQ' is increasingly used as a prefix on adjectival and
adverbial expressions. I personally don't think there's an ounce of
difference between hWS PRWTON hO QEOS EPESKEYATO KTL. and KAQWS
PRWTON hO QEOS EPESKEYATO KTL. Think of colloquial English
expressions such as "He allowed as how ... " where "as how" means
"that" --
On Aug 10, 2006, at 4:14 PM, webb at selftest.net wrote:
> I think that the "this corresponds to that" idea in the semantic
> field of
> KAQWS is at play in Acts 15:4, so that the author is indicating
> that Simeon
> tells it *just as* it was. The two things that correspond closely are
> Simeon's EXHGHSIS and the facts of the story (which personally
> concerned
> Simon) of God's first move to LABEIN EX EQNWN LAON TWi ONOMATI AUTOU.
>
> Webb Mealy
>
> Original Message:
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> From: Elizabeth Kline kline_dekooning at earthlink.net
> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 12:48:59 -0700
> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] KAQWS & ORATIO OBLIQUA Acts 15:4
>
>
>
> On Aug 10, 2006, at 10:06 AM, Elizabeth Kline wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> ACTS 15:14 SUMEWN EXHGHSATO KAQWS PRWTON hO QEOS EPESKEYATO LABEIN EX
>> EQNWN LAON TWi ONOMATI AUTOU. 15 KAI TOUTWi SUMFWNOUSIN hOI LOGOI
>> TWN PROFHTWN KAQWS GEGRAPTAI:
>>
>> 3JOHN 2 AGAPHTE, PERI PANTWN EUCOMAI SE EUODOUSQAI KAI hUGIAINEIN,
>> KAQWS EUODOUTAI SOU hH YUCH. 3 ECARHN GAR LIAN ERCOMENWN ADELFWN KAI
>> MARTUROUNTWN SOU THi ALHQEIAi, KAQWS SU EN ALHQEIAi PERIPATEIS.
>>
>> Aristeae Epist…, Aristeae epistula ad Philocratem
>>
>> 263 1
>> APEKRIQH DE:
>> EI THN ISOTHTA THROI, KAI PAR hEKASTON hEAUTON hUPOMIMNHSKOI,
>> KAQWS ANQRWPOS WN ANQRWPWN hHGEITAI. KAI hO QEOS TOUS
>> hUPERHFANOUS KAQAIREI, TOUS DE EPIEIKEIS KAI TAPEINOUS hUYOI.
>>
>> R.H. Charles translation:
>> 263 he said to the first, 'How can a man keep himself from pride?'
>> And he replied, 'If he maintains equality and remembers on all
>> occasions that he is a man ruling over men. And God brings the proud
>> to nought, and exalts the meek and humble.'
>>
>> KAQWS in Acts 15:4 introduces indirect discourse (Danker, Culy/
>> Parsons) but glossing it as "how" and then saying that this is a
>> rare meaning (Barrett Acts ICC) seems to me to misconstrue the
>> evidence. Does it mean "how"? Danker and Culy/Parsons both
>> translated it "how" but do NOT indicated that "how" is the meaning of
>> KAQWS. I have no problem with the translation but Barrett identifies
>> it as meaning of KAQWS which seems dubious at best.
>>
>>
>
> OK, perhaps "dubious" is the wrong word. What I am trying to do is
> reconstruct the analytical process by which Louw and Nida came to
> list KAQWS under MANNER 89.86. I suspect that the verb EXHGHSATO in
> SUMEWN EXHGHSATO KAQWS (ACTS 15:14) had some influence. If we gloss
> EXHGHSATO as "explained" then the complement would be introduced by
> "how" in English. However, if we gloss EXHGHSATO as "told" then
> semantic component MANNER becomes optional in the complement and
> KAQWS might be something more like hOTI introducing indirect
> discourse.
>
> Another question, did the other uses of KAQWS suggest that MANNER
> would be an appropriate category?
>
> I find it intriguing that Danker's 3rd ed. doesn't give a bolded
> gloss for KAQWS when it introduces indirect discourse.
>
> Elizabeth Kline
>
>
>
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Carl W. Conrad
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