[B-Greek] Jn 1:18b EIS TON KOLPON
Craig J
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Fri Aug 18 18:58:54 EDT 2006
> On Aug 17, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Oun Kwon wrote:
>
> > Jn 1:18b hO WN EIS TON KOLPON TOU PATROS EKEINOS EXHGHSATO
> >
> > Source (by A. Nyland) renders (quite unlike all others)
> >
> > 'he is the one who led the way to the place of honor at the
> > Father's side.'
Carl Conrad:
> But it looks to me like she's understanding that
> phrase EIS TON KOLPON, which in the Greek construes
> essentially with hO WN ("the one who has his being
> in the Father's bosom") as doing double duty
> and construing also with EXHGHSATO. And if I
> understand her phrasing correctly, it seems to me
> that EIS TON KOLPON is understood differently in
> the two
>
> Her version in fuller context: "No one has ever seen
> God at any time. The Only Son [reading hUIOS rather
> than QEOS}, the One who is closest to the Father's
> heart -- he is the one who led the way to the place
> of honor at the Father's side."
If she is making EIS TON KOLPON do double duty (in different senses), that
undermines her translation, right? Can a phrase legitimately function in
double duty like that?
Carl Conrad:
> This verse and especially the second clause of John 1:18
> has a text that is problematic in many ways. There are
> the variants QEOS and hUIOS with MONOGENHS; there's the
> asyndeton between the clauses (just a couple days ago we
> were arguing about whether there was contrast or
> antithesis between the two clauses, since there's no
> conjunction linking the clauses); there's the awkward
> resumptive EKEINOS following upon the appositional phrase
> hO WN EIS TON KOLPO TOU PATROS; there's the omission of an
> explicit object of EXHGHSATO, which is what makes it
> possible for most interpreters to supply QEON from the
> opening of the first clause and which is evidently Ann's
> opening to supply EIS TON KOLPON TOU PATROS from what
> immediately precedes. ...
It seems to me that the presence of WN and EKEINOS naturally divide up the
clause into two parts, with EKEINOS as the subject of EXHGHSATO. If EIS TON
KOLPON TOU PATROS is taken with EXHGHSATO (without doing double duty), that
leaves a construction like this: hO WN EKEINOS EXHGHSATO. To me that seems
very unusual, but maybe there are other examples in Greek, since I am not
widely read..?
--
Craig Johnson
Brisbane, Australia
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