[B-Greek] Greek Lexicon DTD

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad2 at mac.com
Wed Aug 30 10:26:32 EDT 2006


 
On Wednesday, August 30, 2006, at 09:20AM, Louis Sorenson <llsorenson at hotmail.com> wrote:

>Dr. Conrad,
>Thanks for the reply.  I have no intentions of reinventing the wheel.  Your 
>response was pretty stern (I just asked for a DTD), but I understand why.  
>I've studied Greek since 1976 and have a major in classical greek and a 
>minor in NT Greek from another college, although I was out of circulation 
>for a while....  I've always been interested in lexicography.
>
>The point of my asking for the DTD was as follows:  I had been browsing 
>around the zhubert site lately and was looking at its lexicon feature.  The 
>lexicon entries are woefully inadequate in some areas both in regard to 
>lemma and definitions - I'm sure it leads new students astray once in a 
>while.  But of course, this is a collaborative lexicon.  (The only free 
>online lexicons I am aware of are Thayer's and the Perseus site.  Thayer's 
>is outdated pre-papyri and the Perseus site is more complicated than one 
>would want. And lately, the Perseus site has been experiencing a lot of 
>problems.)  The zhubert site is a labor of love by Zack Hubert, as  you 
>know.  After trying to submit a few lexicon entries on the zhubert site it 
>seemed to there could be a better format.  I was looking for a Greek lexicon 
>DTD to see if one could be slimmed down in size and format so as to be 
>appropriate for the zhubert site. Zack has no idea -- I was just doing a 
>little research on the side.

Zack DOES indeed have an idea; I just this morning posted the following comment on his blog:

"If I have any reservations about the tools, it's that the very 'best that the lexical aids can be as now structured falls way short of what is available -- and, I think, indispensible to serious students of Biblical Greek -- in BDAG. On the other hand, your tools permit ready access to all usages of a lemma in the Greek Bible, and that's very useful resource. Links to LSJ on Perseus can make available the data on usage of these words in secular Greek literature as well."

I should add that I've been serving as an editor for the lexical features of Zack's site for a year or more; it's true, as I said in my note above, that there really is no substitute for access to BDAG and L&N; I really don't see how anyone who shells out bucks for a good digital Biblical resource program (e.g. Accordance, Logos, Bible Windows, etc.) with Greek and Hebrew Biblical texts could afford not to include BDAG and L&N. I personally think that both of these as well as access to LSJ are vitally important to anyone seriously working in Biblical Greek.

>
>>From: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad2 at mac.com>
>>To: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
>>CC: Louis Sorenson <llsorenson at hotmail.com>, b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>>Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Greek Lexicon DTD
>>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 07:34:03 -0400
>>
>>
>>On Wednesday, August 30, 2006, at 07:07AM, George F Somsel 
>><gfsomsel at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Why spend your time re-inventing the wheel.  There are lexicons available 
>>in both
>> >print and electronic versions.  Personally, I have better things to do.
>>
>>And even if one does NOT have better things to do but really wants to 
>>generate one's own brand new lexicon, one does not become a lexicographer 
>>overnight. I think I'd want to spend a few years (a decade or more?) 
>>learning Greek before attempt to produce a Greek lexicon more useful than 
>>BDAG or LSJ or L&N>
>>
>>
>> >Louis Sorenson <llsorenson at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >  Are there any available DTD's for generating a lexicon for classical or
>> >koine Greek in xml?
>>
>>Carl W. Conrad
>>Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
>>1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828) 675-4243
>>cwconrad2 at mac.com
>>WWW: http://www.ioa.com/~cwconrad/
>
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Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828) 675-4243
cwconrad2 at mac.com
WWW: http://www.ioa.com/~cwconrad/



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