[B-Greek] Matt 1:20 to gennethen: Beget or conceive?

George F Somsel gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Fri Dec 15 16:47:46 EST 2006


That doesn't work with Mt 1.20 since you have EN AUTHi but EK PNEUMATOS ESTIN hAGIOU with GENNHQEN sandwiched in between
  Let's put that down in order from the beginning of the speech so there is no confusion.

IWSHF hUIOS DAUID, MH FOBHQHiS PARALABEIN MARIAN THN GUNAIDA SOU.  TO GAR EN AUTHi GENNHQEN EK PNEUMATOS ESTIN hAGIOU.

george
gfsomsel
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----- Original Message ----
From: Eric Weiss <papaweiss1 at yahoo.com>
To: b-greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:49:39 PM
Subject: [B-Greek] Matt 1:20 to gennethen: Beget or conceive?


Not the same word, of course, but the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed states:
   
  ... KAI SARKWQENTA EK PNEUMATOS hAGIOU KAI MARIAS THS PARQENOU KAI 
  ENANQRWPHSANTA.
   
  The incarnation is depicted as a mutual/cooperative/single act of The Holy Spirit and The 
  Virgin Mary (note that a single preposition, EK, governs them both - the same preposition 
  used with the Holy Spirit in Matthew 1:20; which now makes me wonder if the EN in EN 
  AUTHi might be translated as "by [her]" - I don't know if EN used with GENNAW can have 
  this meaning, though).
   
  Anyway, the Creed suggests to me that the use of GENNAW in reference to Christ might 
  have been understood to mean both the Holy Spirit's begetting and Mary's conceiving. 


Eric S. Weiss


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