[B-Greek] John 3:29 hO hESTHKWS KAI AKOUWN
Carl W. Conrad
cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Tue Dec 19 13:18:55 EST 2006
On Dec 19, 2006, at 1:04 PM, Elizabeth Kline wrote:
>
> On Dec 19, 2006, at 9:42 AM, Carl W. Conrad wrote:
>
>> Just to be a little bit more precise about the forms of this verb:
>> the present-tense forms are hISTHMI ("make stand"), which is the
>> active causative form of what should perhaps more reasonably be
>> considered the real lemma, hISTAMAI, which means "rise to a standing
>> position" or "come to a halt." The perfect-tense form hESTHKA (older
>> hESTAA) is intransitive as is the aorist form ESTHN (as opposed to
>> the active ESTHSA corresponding to the active causative present
>> hISTHMI). These intransitive perfect and aorist are forms
>> corresponding to the present middle hISTAMAI; they are survivals from
>> the period before the development of a perfect middle-passive form in
>> -MAI/SAI/TAI/KTL.
>
> Carl,
>
> Is intransitive perfect hO hESTHKWS stative or imperfective?
I guess the proper word is "stative." Is EIMI existential stative? I
think that hO hESTHKWS means "the one who is now standing," hESTHKA
means "I am now standing" (= "I have risen to my feet" or "I have
come to a halt."
>
> John 3:29 hO ECWN THN NUMFHN NUMFIOS ESTIN: hO DE FILOS TOU NUMFIOU
> hO hESTHKWS KAI AKOUWN AUTOU CARAi CAIREI DIA THN FWNHN TOU NUMFIOU.
> hAUTH OUN hH CARA hH EMH PEPLHRWTAI.
>
> I would agree that the perfect active fills the same slot as the
> present active but to say it functions as the present (G.Somsel)
> implies that it is aspectually imperfective.
>
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> Elizabeth Kline
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Carl W. Conrad
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