[B-Greek] John 3:29 hO hESTHKWS KAI AKOUWN

Richard Lindeman oblchurch at msn.com
Wed Dec 20 10:23:57 EST 2006


From: "Richard Lindeman" <oblchurch at msn.com>
To: <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: B-Greek Digest, Vol 48, Issue 20


 Carl & Elizabeth:

 Thanks, this is very helpful to me.  "The one who is now standing and
 hearing" makes good sense to me. It isn't that the perfect hESTHKWS
 functions as exactly the equivalent of a present here, but rather that it
 retains its perfect aspect while it expresses its root meaning in present
 time statively.  However, now I am tempted to translate this phrase: "The
 one who is now standing and always hearing" in order to distinguish between
 the aspects.  Am I going too far with this?

 Thanks!

 Rich Lindeman
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>>Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:18:55 -0500
>>From: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
>>Subject: Re: [B-Greek] John 3:29 hO hESTHKWS KAI AKOUWN
>>To: Elizabeth Kline <kline_dekooning at earthlink.net>
>>Cc: greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
>>Message-ID: <98732C01-5A34-4785-B678-5431FEDDB5C3 at artsci.wustl.edu>
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>>On Dec 19, 2006, at 1:04 PM, Elizabeth Kline wrote:
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>> Carl,
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>> Is intransitive perfect hO hESTHKWS stative or imperfective?
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>>I guess the proper word is "stative." Is EIMI existential stative? I
>>think that hO hESTHKWS means "the one who is now standing," hESTHKA
>>means "I am now standing" (= "I have risen to my feet" or "I have
>>come to a halt."
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