[B-Greek] ACTS 18:18 TOIS ADELFOIS
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cwestf5155 at aol.com
Sat Dec 23 14:22:30 EST 2006
John,
You argued this like a linguist. What you describe is called linearization. That is, discourse is processed in sequence such a way that what comes first constrains what follows. Furthermore, PROSMENW occurring with the dative is "normal" usage.
You argue for the very good case for Iver and Marty et al being correct. One infers from both the English and the Greek that since Paul remained TOIS ADELFOIS that he also left them as well that the geographic location.
Cindy Westfall
McMaster Divinity College
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From: jfs at jfsanders.com
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Subject: [B-Greek] ACTS 18:18 TOIS ADELFOIS
Far be it for me to bring sage advice on this issue, but as a beginner I do need
to make some comments.
What I see is two lawyers, one whose client is PROSMENW and the other whose
client is APOTASSW. They are presenting briefs attempting to assert their
client's right to the dative, TOIS ADELFOIS.
Let me set the stage as I understand it; again, I am in the audience listening
to this read. We have Paul remaining for sufficient days when TOIS ADELFOIS is
read. At this point I do not know what, if anything will follow. I believe
Iver Larsen has established, not legal ownership, but a reasonable expectation
that a hearer will immediately associate TOIS ADELFOIS with PROSMEINAS. If Luke
ended the narrative at this point, there would be argument, but he did not end
here. He continued with the word APOTAXAMENOS. Now the argument goes that this
word had so much energy that it ripped the relationship we already established
with PROSMEINAS and reestablished that relationship with APOTAXAMENOS. Now
there are some words that have that power, but I do not believe this is one of
them.
Now let us suppose that Luke left out ETI PROSMEINAS hHMERAS hIKANAS. When he
came to TOIS ADELFOIS, we would suspend any connection because we have nothing
to assoicate this term with. But we he now read APOTAXAMENOS we would
immediately associate TOIS ADELFOIS with APOTAXAMENOS and we would not have any
argument.
I am unaware of any rule in Koine Greek that prevents both of those
relationships forming in the sequence narrated. Especially since both
paticiples are connected to the same agent, hO PAULOS.
So the question I am asking, assuming this is normal discourse, why would we not
associate TOIS ADELFOIS with PROSMEINAS before we heard the participle
APOTAXAMENOS.
John Sanders
Suzhou, China
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