[B-Greek] Left order prominence and construction -- Acts 5.18
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Thu Dec 28 11:39:17 EST 2006
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Father James Silver
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Orthodox Church in America
----- Original Message -----
From: George F Somsel
Date: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:29 am
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Left order prominence and construction -- Acts 5.18
To: Iver Larsen , b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Iver,
>
> I'm glad you mentioned Acts 16.37 where Paul was publicly beaten
> since this concept is my concern here. Are we to understand
> that what is envisioned is the placing of the apostles in full
> view of all? Are we to think of a situation such as that in
> colonial New England where people had their arms and legs
> fastened into stocks and were subject to scrutiny by their neighbors?
>
> george
> gfsomsel
> _________
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Iver Larsen
> To: George F Somsel ; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:59:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Left order prominence and construction --
> Acts 5.18
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George F Somsel"
>
>
> > I'm wondering what Iver's theory would say regarding the usage
> of DHMOSIAi in this verse.
> >
> > KAI EPEBALON TAS CEIRAS EPI TOUS APOSTOLOUS KAI EQENTO AUTOUS
> EN THRHSEI DHMOSIAi
> >
> > george
> > gfsomsel
>
> No problem (after correcting your various typos):
>
> And they laid hands on the apostles and put them in a public jail.
>
> DHMOSIAi is an adjective that occurs in its expected position
> after the noun it modifies. It is just
> a (public) JAIL, not a PUBLIC jail. There is no prominence to
> the final adjective. At the clause
> level, the dative complement of to "put" (a trivalent verb) is
> in the least prominent position.
> There is nothing surprising about them being put in a public
> jail after they have been "laid hands
> on". The adjective DHMOSIOS carries so little semantic weight
> when combined with THRHSIS that it is
> left out in the similar sentence in Acts 4:3. On the other hand
> THRHSIS is a more general word than
> English jail, basically meaning "(place of) keeping", so the
> word DHMOSIOS helps to clarify that the
> text is talking about an official place for keeping alleged
> criminals, what we call a jail.
>
> There is much more prominence to DHMOSIAi in Acts 16:37 as shown
> by the relative placement of the
> constituents.
>
> Iver Larsen
>
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