[B-Greek] DHMOSIAi -- always adverbial? or sometimes adjectival?
Carl W. Conrad
cwconrad2 at mac.com
Sun Dec 31 13:40:07 EST 2006
Insofar as this topic seems to involve little more than claim and counter-claim regarding whether or not the dative singular form DHMOSIAi is 'always' adverbial in Hellenistic Greek or whether it is sometimes -- and perhaps in Acts 5.18 (EN THRHSEI DHMOSIAi) adjectival, it's getting somewhat tedious. I don't know that either contention can really be PROVEN, but it might be facilitated to some degree if anyone with access to the TLG corpus can do a search for instances of DHMOSIAi in texts of the 2nd c. BCE thru 3rd c. CE where DHMO;SIAi arguably qualifies a dative feminine singular noun. Jeffrey Gibson, I think has access; I don't know who else might. But the LXX and GNT surely constitute too narrow a corpus to judge the matter. More people might be convinced if the available texts from the era can be checked for usage in this matter.
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (ret)
On Sunday, December 31, 2006, at 01:11PM, "George F Somsel" <gfsomsel at yahoo.com> wrote:
>Albert,
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>It may be true that I have gone too far. As you note, there are seven uses of DHMIOSIOS in the f dat sg in the LXX and NT. Perhaps you can find me seven instances in Greek literature of the f dat sg where the usage is unquestionably adjectival?
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>george
>gfsomsel
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>----- Original Message ----
>From: Albert Pietersma <albert.pietersma at sympatico.ca>
>To: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
>Cc: Iver Larsen <iver_larsen at sil.org>; BG <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
>Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 11:42:12 AM
>Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Acts 5.18 and 4:3
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>I must confess not having followed the prominence debate, but methinks
>you go much too far, George, in your claim that DHMOSIAi MUST be
>adverbial in Acts 5:18. You have in view four instances in the NT and
>three in the LXX?a total of seven. Given the fact that DHMOSIOS occurs
>hundreds of times in Greek literature down to the turning of the era,
>and given the fact that DHMOSIAi (in public) regularly contrasts with
>IDIAi (in private) it stands to reason that DHMOSIAi is most often
>adverbial. But that scarcely means that it ceases to be adjectival.
>Al
>On Dec 31, 2006, at 9:00 AM, George F Somsel wrote:
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>> While it may be true that the majority of commentators and translators
>> have taken DHMOSIAi here to be adjectival, this runs counter to its
>> usage elsewhere. I have yet to see an instance where the f dat sg of
>> DHMOSIOS is an adjective.
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