[B-Greek] hINA GNWTE KAI GINWSKHTE Jn. 10:38

frjsilver at optonline.net frjsilver at optonline.net
Sun Feb 12 11:47:50 EST 2006


Dear Friends --

Etymological similarities notwithstanding, these two verbs really don't mean the same thing.

Ancient translations retain the subjunctive but offer distinctly different meanings.  Both Latin and Church Slavonic, e.g., render this as 'that you may know and believe'.

Hope this helps a little.

Monk James
Orthodox Church in America


----- Original Message -----
From: RRedden604 at aol.com
Date: Thursday, February 2, 2006 8:27 pm
Subject: [B-Greek] hINA GNWTE KAI GINWSKHTE  Jn. 10:38

> THAT YOU MAY KNOW AND YOU MAY KNOW  Jn. 10:38
> 
> hINA GNWTE KAI GINWSKHTE hOTI EN EMOI hO PATHR KAGW EN TW PATRI.
> 
> I am interested in getting everyone's insights into this hINA 
> clause in  John 
> 10:38. We first have a subjunctive aorist active second person 
> plural  
> followed by a subjunctive present active second person plural. 
> Both could be  
> translated "you may know."   The textual history seems to indicate 
> some discomfort 
> with a double "you may know" with some copyists omitting it (if  
> it was 
> older), or others replacing it with PISTEUSHTE (if GINWSKHTE was  
> older).   I have 
> never been satisfied with the standard  translations.  Is there 
> more here?
> 
> Rob Redden
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