[B-Greek] Acts 2:7

Richard Lindeman oblchurch at msn.com
Tue Feb 28 10:54:42 EST 2006


Dr. Conrad:

Perhaps part of the difficulty also is my understanding of IDOU.  When I 
encounter it I have a tendency to see IDOU as "BEHOLD" rather than "look". 
But if the particle is not so strong as I imagine, then what are other 
options the author may have for startling me?

You wrote...
"I'm also a bit surprised by the form OUC before a word beginning with  a 
smooth breathing.BDF §14 has a note on this which may perhaps point in the 
right direction."

I don't have BDF and so will need to take my best guess.  Luke is reputed to 
be a learned scribe and so it is unlikely that he is speaking yokel. 
However, it would not surprise me that a variation between OUK and OUC may 
be a matter of regional preference at times?

Rich Lindeman


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
To: "Richard Lindeman" <oblchurch at msn.com>
Cc: "B-Greek" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Acts 2:7



On Feb 27, 2006, at 10:58 PM, Richard Lindeman wrote:

> Acts 2:7 OUX IDOU hAPANTES hOUTOI EISIN hOI LALOUNTES GALILAIOI;
>
> "Not (are) behold all of these who are speaking Galileans?"
>
> My natural inclination is to translate the above "Are not all of  these 
> who
> are speaking Galileans?"

And your natural inclination is quite right.

> Does the placement of OUX before IDOU mean that IDOU is also part  of what 
> is
> being negated?
>
> What are the rules for OUX (and other similar particles?) that  determine 
> its
> placement within a clause or sentence?
>
> Does its placement within a sentence indicate in any way the  portion of 
> the
> sentence that is actually being negated?

The apparent difficulty here has to do with the placement of IDOU
between OUC and the main clause. BDAG's entry for IDOU has under
1.b.delta: " in the middle of a statement, and at the same time
enlivening it Mt 23:34; Ac 2:7; 13:11; 20:22, 25."

The force of the sequence is perhaps something like, "But isn't it
so? -- hey! -- everyone who's talking is a Galilean!"

I'm also a bit surprised by the form OUC before a word beginning with
a smooth breathing.BDF §14 has a note on this which may perhaps point
in the right direction.

Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
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