[B-Greek] John 5:29

Dony K. Donev dony at cupandcross.com
Tue Jan 31 13:20:56 EST 2006


Kenneth G. Wilson (1923-).  The Columbia Guide to Standard American English. 
1993.
GENITIVE OF PURPOSE: Some grammarians classify certain descriptive genitives 
as genitives of purpose. The inflected form (women's locker room, boys' 
bicycles) is matched by a periphrastic form made usually with for rather 
than the otherwise more frequent of (locker rooms for women, bicycles for 
boys).

Dony K. Donev

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Webb" <webb at selftest.net>
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Subject: Re: [B-Greek] John 5:29


>I think bringing the idea of "purpose" to the surface constitutes a
> theological, rather than strictly grammatical, interpretation of the
> genitives.
> ANASTASIN ZWHS, KRISEWS
> In _Idioms of the Greek New Testament_, Porter's first classification of
> genetive uses is "quality, definition or description", which, he says,
> "might well be considered the essential use of the genetive case".
> Applying this to our texts results in "a resurrection of [i.e. 
> characterized
> by] life", and "a resurrection of [i.e. characterized by] judgment". One 
> can
> say that the one is characterized by life and the other by judgment 
> because
> God wants it that way, i.e. because that is the divine purpose of 
> each--but
> now you're doing theology. Are there other theological approaches equally
> consistent with this grammar? Absolutely.
> Webb Mealy
>
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>>
>> @Dony,
>>
>> yes, that is how I would understand the genitives here.  As destination 
>> or
> purpose.
>>
>> BDF $ 166. A genitive of purpose (or result) appears in ANASTASIN ZWHS,
>> KRISEWS, 'to life, judgement' Jn 5:29...  So I think you are right.
>> --
>> Kelton Graham
>> KGRAHAM0938 at comcast.net
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: "Dony K. Donev" <dony at cupandcross.com>
>>
>> > John 5:29
>> >
>> > Is it possible that the genitive in life and judgment here is rendered
>> > "resurrection for life" and "resurrection for judgment" (denoting
> purpose)
>> > instead of the possessive "of life" and "of judgment?"
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Dony K. Donev
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