[B-Greek] John 1:1,3 staircase pattern
Carl W. Conrad
cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Tue Jul 4 05:37:12 EDT 2006
Kelton, I would urge you to watch out for the mixing of
transliteration forms for "Nu": we don't use the "V" but "N" only for
Nu.
On Jul 3, 2006, at 10:13 PM, kgraham0938 at comcast.net wrote:
> Hey I've heard of that staircase pattern before, can someone
> illustrate it with regards to hO GEGONEN in John 1:3, Bruce Metzger
> mentions this in his text critic commentary. Would it be something
> like
>
> PANTA DI AUTOU EGENETO KAI CWRIS AUTOU EGENETO OUDE EV
> hO GEGONEN EN AUTWi ZWN HN......
>
> I'm just guessing.
There's dispute over the punctuation of 1:3 (for which see Metzger's
notes), but in terms of the NA27/UBS4 printed text these three
clauses DO bear out the staircase pattern:
PANTA DI' AUTOU EGENETO (PANTA EGENETO)
KAI CWRIS AUTOU EGENETO OUDE hEN (EGENETO OUDE hEN)
hO\ GEGONEN EN AUTWi ZWH HN (GEGONEN ... ZWH HN).
>
> --
> Kelton Graham
> KGRAHAM0938 at comcast.net
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
>
>>
>> On Jul 3, 2006, at 8:38 PM, frjsilver at optonline.net wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Friends --
>>>
>>> My Greek texts of John's Gospel have KAI QEOS HN hO LOGOS.
>>>
>>> This particular predicative construction is indeed emphatic,
>>> saying -- almost as an exclamation -- 'and the Word was GOD'.
>>>
>>> Please also note that QEOS is anarthrous, categoric in character,
>>> while the articulated LOGOS is specific.
>>
>> Actually it is pretty standard order for the predicate word to
>> precede the copula with the subject following it. But attention has
>> also been called by many to the "staircase" pattern of alternation in
>> the three clauses of Jn 1:1 -- LOGOS at the end of the first clause,
>> and the beginning of the second clause, at the end of the third
>> clause:
>>
>> EN ARCHi HN hO LOGOS
>> KAI hO LOGOS HN PROS TON QEON
>> KAI QEOS HN hO LOGOS.
>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Roger Kohlstedt
>>> Date: Monday, July 3, 2006 7:54 pm
>>> Subject: [B-Greek] John 1:1c
>>>
>>>> In the last phrase of John 1:1 the English Bible
>>>> states that "the word was God". In the Greek Bible
>>>> it is " QEOS HN LOGOS". Why is the word order
>>>> different in the Greek? Is it to emphasize the divine
>>>> nature of the logos?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Roger Kohlstedt
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>>
>> Carl W. Conrad
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Carl W. Conrad
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