[B-Greek] Heb 6:19 Who/is entering/reaching the Holy oftheHolies?
virgil newkirk
virgilsalvage1 at msn.com
Mon Mar 13 05:04:15 EST 2006
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From: "Iver Larsen" <iver at larsen.dk>
To: "Oun Kwon" <kwonbbl at gmail.com>; <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Heb 6:19 Who/is entering/reaching the Holy
oftheHolies?
> > <clipped>
> >
> >> The first connection with EISERCOMENHN is hHN at the beginning of v.
> >> 19.
> >> Since this is a relative, it must itself refer back to another word.
> >> In
> >> this case it is ELPIIDOS at the end of v. 18.
> >
> > <clipped>
> >
> > Now, as I understood grammatically, hHN, thus ELPIDOS, is the subject
> > of the verb ESERCOMENHN .
> >
> > Then, what would it mean when it says 'Hope entering the Holy of
> > Holies'?
> >
> > Oun Kwon
>
> > 6:19 hHN hWS AGKURAN ECOMEN THS YUCHS ASFALH TE KAI BEBAIAN
> > KAI EISERCOMENHN EIS TO ESWTERON TOU KATAPETASMATOS
>
> Hope is described with the metaphor of an anchor (of soul). Both ELPIS and
> AGKURA are feminine words, so I would prefer
> to see all three further descriptions relate grammatically as an
> apposition to the anchor, but semantically to both,
> since the hope is described as an anchor.
>
> The concept of "hope" can be somewhat fluid. But an anchor is here
> described as both ASFALHS (secure, definite) and
> BEBAIOS (firmly established, sure) and the reason that it is a reliable,
> secure and firmly established is that it is
> secured to the innermost section of God's Temple, where God's own presence
> it. The picture is that the anchor is as
> secure as that to which it is attached. So, I would say that it is the
> anchor that "goes into the Holy of Holies". Don't
> be limited by the English gloss "enter". The subject for enter does not
> have to be animate. For instance, Matt 15:11
> talks about "the thing that goes/enters into the mouth". The same word is
> used as here. The anchor goes all the way into
> the very presence of God. Notice that the NET says "it reaches inside the
> curtain". RSV is in my opinion somewhat
> misleading by repeating "hope" when they should have repeated "anchor", if
> anything. Most translations use the ambiguous
> "it" as a reference pointer.
>
> Iver Larsen
Dear Iver,
Perhaps there is another way to consider this matter. The hope that is ours
is something that has been generated by God and has been transferred into
and reserved in heaven,(1 Peter 1:3,4) (EIS TO ESWTERON TOU KATAPETASMATOS)I
would suggest. And as we experience it and continue in it (Romans 8:24)
surely it is one of those things that connects us to heaven in a real way.
Phillipians 3:20 states that even our POLITEUMA is in heaven, and surely
this is something that is also (EIS TO ESWTERON TOU KATAPETASMATOS.) And
then this (hope stored within the veil) with respect to our PSUCHE becomes
to us "as" an anchor; this for our temporal keeping and safety with respect
to many aspects of our journey when we need to be protected from being blown
or carried away. Surely the anchor is here (where our soul is) and our hope
is safely EIS TO ESWTERON TOU KATAPETASMATOS. Our hope having entered within
the veil results in becoming as an anchor to our soul, istm.
Virgil Newkirk
Salt Lake City, Utah
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