[B-Greek] Mk 6:8b EI MH ... MH ... MH ...
Harold Holmyard
hholmyard at ont.com
Wed May 31 16:29:53 EDT 2006
Dear Oun and Iver,
>Oun Kwon wrote:
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>>On journey the disciples are told not to take things (in Mt 10:10 and
>>in Lk 9:3). Here is the pertinent clause in Mk.
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>>Mk 6:8b
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>>EI MH hRABDON MONON MH ARTON MH PHRAN MH EIS THN ZWNHN CALKON
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>Then in v 9: DO wear sandals on your feet, because that is essential
>for a wanderer in rugged terrain, just as a walking staff is. But do not take extra tunics (take off in the one you are
>wearing).
>So, it appears that the instruction is: Only take along what is essential for walking along the roads, i.e. sandals on
>your feet, your normal clothing without extras and a walking stick.
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>In Matt 10:9-10 the instructions are: No gold, no silver, no copper, no bag, not two tunics, no (extra) sandals, no
>(extra) staff.
>This last one is based on the alternative reading RABDOUS, and the interpretation that the plurals indicate something in
>addition to what is essential. I won't argue here for this preferred reading since it is a TC issue.
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HH: I don't think you even need to use the alternate reading because Mt
10:9 says not to take sandals, but Mk 6:9 says to wear sandals. There
would be no spiritual meaning (in terms of receiving the hospitality of
strangers, which is what Jesus is talking about) to walking barefoot,
would there? People would not normally do that whether they had hosts
awaiting them or not. So Mt 10:9 must mean extra sandals and why
shouldn't the idea of "extra" carry over to the next item, the staff.
The idea of extra is introduced, as Iver said, by the "two tunics." Luke
9:3 and 10:4 use the verbs AIRW and BASTAZW, giving the idea of carrying
something as baggage. If someone always walked with a walking stick it
would not be baggage, but again as Iver said, what was essential, like
the first pair of sandals.
Yours,
Harold Holmyard
>In Luk 9:3 the instructions are: Take nothing. No staff, no bag, no food, no money, not two tunics. Again, it is an
>interpretation to take these words to mean "extras". The "two tunics" probably does not men two extra tunics, but two in
>the sense of the one you are wearing and one extra.
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>You might find it interesting to study the NET for these verses:
>Luk 9:3: "Take nothing for your journey-no staff, (Mark 6.8 allows one staff. It might be that Luke's summary (cf. Matt
>10.9-10) means not taking an extra staff or that the expression is merely rhetorical for "traveling light" which has
>been rendered in two slightly different ways) no bag, no bread, no money, and do not take an extra tunic. (Grk "have two
>tunics.")"
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>I think the most debatable issue is the staff, but Greek grammar does not solve the problem.
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>Iver Larsen
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