[B-Greek] Acts 2:16 - Holy Spirit = TOUTO w/no antecedent
frjsilver at optonline.net
frjsilver at optonline.net
Fri Nov 3 17:34:45 EST 2006
As usual, I support Carl Conrad: TOUTO = EIRHMENON (this = 'what was spoken').
Copula and all, this is the same predicative construction (works in English, too!) as at LK 22:19: TOUTO ESTI TO SWMA MOU.
Father James Silver
Monk James
Orthodox Church in America
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl W. Conrad"
Date: Friday, November 3, 2006 4:34 pm
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Acts 2:16 - Holy Spirit = TOUTO w/no antecedent
To: Jason Kerrigan
Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>
> On Nov 3, 2006, at 2:37 PM, Jason Kerrigan wrote:
>
> > Yes, Carl, you are correct. I am wondering about a
> > passage that refers to the Holy Spirit, specifically
> > Acts 2:16. Here, the Holy Spirit is referred to with a
> > neuter pronoun (TOUTO) despite the fact that there
> > is not a neuter antecedent. However, Peter proceeds to
> > quote a passage from Joel that does use the neuter
> > PNEUMATOS, and therefore I was inquiring as to whether
> > or not this noun would determine the gender of the preceeding
> > pronoun. However, as someone who is trying to grasp
> > various rules of Greek grammar in general, I was hoping
> > that there was somekind of universal rule relegating the
> > correspondence between the gender of nouns and pronouns.
>
> This is Peter addressing those who have claimed that those who
> are
> proclaiming the gospel in various languages are GLEUKOUS MEMESTWMENOI.
>
> Text: ALLA TOUTO ESTIN TO EIRHMENON DIA TOU PROFHTOU IWHL ...
>
> I don't think this TOUTO refers specifically to the Holy Spirit
> but
> rather to the phenomenon of the speaking. I think that TOUTO
> here
> refers to"what you are seeing and hearing." Certainly the
> citation
> from the prophet Joel goes on to explain what has happened in
> terms
> of Holy Spirit, but nevertheless I don't think that the gender
> of
> TOUTO has anything to do with the gender of PNEUMA -- I think it
>
> simply refers to the phenomenon just witnessed.
>
> Carl W. Conrad
> Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
> 1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828) 675-4243
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