[B-Greek] Humor or a frozen expression? Mk 5.7

Curtis Hinson curtis at curtishinson.com
Sun Oct 1 03:20:17 EDT 2006


I wrote a paper on the Luke 8.26 account and it's parallels once.  
There's been some comment on the list in the past about the Aramaicism 
here, MaH LiY WaLaK, that might lead to some other commentary of interest.

I did note UIE TOU QEOU TOU UYISTOU as a remarkably high form of 
address.  Perhaps the demon is simply trying to use Jesus' name/title in 
an effort to adjure/control him.  Jesus throws that right back though in 
Mk 5.9, 5:9 και επηρωτα αυτον τι ονομα σοι... (KAI EPHRWTA AUTON TI 
ONOMA SOI).

My full bibliography got lost in a harddrive crash but I found a few notes.

Fitzmeyer, Joseph. The Gospel According to St. Luke I-IX. The Anchor 
Bible 28. New York: Doubleday, 1970.
Koppenborg J.S. Excavating Q: The History and Setting of the Sayings 
Gospel. Edinburgh: T&T Clark, 2000.
Allison. The Jesus Tradition in Q. Harrisburg, Pennsylvania: Trinity, 1997.
Heirs. Binding and Loosing. JBL 104 June 1985. 233-250
Kleist, James. The Gadarene Demoniacs. CBQ 9 no 1 Ja 1947, 101-105.
Al-Jahiz, Omar bin Bahar, Kittab Al-Hayawan. (Cairo: Mustafa Al-Bai 
Al-Halabi and sons 1943), 309.
Rubin, Uri, "Apes, Pigs, and the Islamic Identity," Israel Oriental 
Studies XVII (1997), 93-102.
Falastin Al-Muslima (London September 1996), series of articles, nu 
Ibrahim Al-'Ali, 54-55.
Luz, Ulrich, Die Jesusgeschichte de Matthäu (Neukirchen: Neukirchener 
Verlag 1993)
See also Gospel of Thomas, the Arabic Infancy Gospel, Testaments of the 
12 Patriarchs, and Book of Jubilees.
Smith, Morton, Jesus the Magician, (New York and London, 1978), 71.

This discussion could easily get far afield from list parameters.

Bless the Name
Curtis Hinson
http://curtishinson.com

George F Somsel wrote the following on 10/1/2006 1:43 AM:
> TEXT
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> KAI KRACAS FWNHi MEGALHi LEGEI, "TI EMOI KAI SOI, IHSOU hUIE TOU QEOU TOU hUYISTOU?  ORKIZW SE TON QEON MH ME BASANISHiS"
>  
> And crying out in a loud voice he said, "What have I to do with you [Lit.:  "What to me and to you"], Jesus Son of the most high God?  I implore you by God that you not torment me."  
>  
> I find this rather ironic that a demon possessing this man would thus beseech Christ in the VERY NAME OF GOD whom he supposedly opposes (I know "KAI TA DAIMONIA PISTEUOUSIN KAI FRISSOUSIN" (Jas 2.19), but that's another passage).  Was the writer being humorous or is this simply a frozen usage in relation to ORKIZW?
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