[B-Greek] Humor or a frozen expression? Mk 5.7
George F Somsel
gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 1 17:16:34 EDT 2006
This was inadvertently sent only to the respondent. I am therefore sending it to the list as well.
You would then take TON QEON as an appositive to SE. That is entirely possible, but I don't think that is what was intended. You might take a look at Wallace, _Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics_, pp 204-05 where he deals with the use of the accusative in oaths. He specifically cites this passage. I don't always agree with Wallace, but in this instance I do.
george
gfsomsel
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----- Original Message ----
From: MDWatson <mdwatson at open.org>
To: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2006 4:06:34 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Humor or a frozen expression? Mk 5.7
I think the text shows that the demon knew that Jesus was not just an
ordinary man.
Both SE and TON QEON are accusative and objects of ORKIZW.
Justified by the demon's fear of someone capable to torment him I'd render
this:
"I implore you, God, do not torment me!"
Blessings,
Mike Watson
----- Original Message -----
From: "George F Somsel" <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
To: <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 11:43 PM
Subject: [B-Greek] Humor or a frozen expression? Mk 5.7
> TEXT
>
> KAI KRACAS FWNHi MEGALHi LEGEI, "TI EMOI KAI SOI, IHSOU hUIE TOU QEOU TOU
hUYISTOU? ORKIZW SE TON QEON MH ME BASANISHiS"
>
> And crying out in a loud voice he said, "What have I to do with you [Lit.:
"What to me and to you"], Jesus Son of the most high God? I implore you by
God that you not torment me."
>
> I find this rather ironic that a demon possessing this man would thus
beseech Christ in the VERY NAME OF GOD whom he supposedly opposes (I know
"KAI TA DAIMONIA PISTEUOUSIN KAI FRISSOUSIN" (Jas 2.19), but that's another
passage). Was the writer being humorous or is this simply a frozen usage in
relation to ORKIZW?
>
> george
> gfsomsel
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