[B-Greek] Humor or a frozen expression? Mk 5.7
Carl W. Conrad
cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Mon Oct 2 14:53:59 EDT 2006
On Oct 2, 2006, at 2:24 PM, Harold Holmyard wrote:
> George F Somsel wrote:
>
>> KAI KRACAS FWNHi MEGALHi LEGEI, "TI EMOI KAI
>> SOI, IHSOU hUIE TOU QEOU TOU hUYISTOU? ORKIZW
>> SE TON QEON MH ME BASANISHiS"
>>
>> And crying out in a loud voice he said, "What
>> have I to do with you [Lit.: "What to me and
>> to you"], Jesus Son of the most high God? I
>> implore you by God that you not torment me."
>>
>> I find this rather ironic that a demon
>> possessing this man would thus beseech Christ
>> in the VERY NAME OF GOD whom he supposedly
>> opposes (I know "KAI TA DAIMONIA PISTEUOUSIN
>> KAI FRISSOUSIN" (Jas 2.19), but that's another
>> passage). Was the writer being humorous or is
>> this simply a frozen usage in relation to
>> ORKIZW?
>
> HH: I think the parallel in Matt 8:29 clarifies
> the matter a bit:
>
> Matt. 8:29 “What do you want with us, Son of
> God?” they shouted. “Have you come here to
> torture us before the appointed time?”
>
> HH: Apparently God has set a time when he will
> punish the fallen angels. It is a time the parties
> involved know, and they recognized Jesus' first
> incarnation was not that time. So the demons
> apparently appealed to God's expressed will in
> this matter.
Of course, the only thing that Matthew's account
clarifies is how Matthew interpreted the incident.
To assume that it clarifies Mark's account depends
upon hermeneutical conceptions which are outside
the limits of list-discussion.
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