[B-Greek] Sunday School Class Advice?
Jeffrey Cockrell
jeffcockrell at gmail.com
Fri Oct 6 11:46:57 EDT 2006
A Greek and Hebrew workbook "Do It Yourself Hebrew and Greek" by Edward W.
Goodrick (Zondervan) would be a good text. (ISBN 0-310-41741-4) The Greek
section is better than the Hebrew.
Goodrick guides the student into learning basic Greek vocab and grammar.
The Greek section is 13 lessons, which would be good for a Sunday school
quarter.
It's available at Amazon for around $15.00 (less used).
Jeff Cockrell
On 10/6/06, Randall Buth <randallbuth at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Barry's advice is a good start, I've got a couple of other notes.
>
> Troy Fullerton egrapse
> > I have been attempting to teach some Greek to my college-age bracket
> Sunday
> > school class at church.
>
> Very laudable. EULOGHSAI SE KURIOS
>
> > My goals are pretty simple: Initially, I want them to learn
> > the alphabet, a consistent pronunciation system, and a few dozen
> high-frequency
> > words (including some common N.T. scriptures). As time goes on, I can
> delve
> > more into the grammar. But my main goal is to take some of the mystique
> or
> > "foreign-ness" out of approaching Greek, to have them able to
> competently use
> > literate Bible study materials, and to have them not feel intimidated
> when dealing
> > with those who challenge their faith on the basis of what "the Greek"
> supposedly
> > says. I also want to lay the groundwork so that if some of my students
> wish to
> > continue their studies on a more intensive basis, many of the initial
> hurtles and
> > barriers will have been cleared away.
> >
> > Do any of you have any advice to offer?
>
> RB:
> Teach them to recite the Lord's prayer. It is short, doable and a
> great way to start class.
>
> > What materials would you recommend
> > that would support this (things that could be enjoyed by people who are
> possibly
> > not so "nerdy" as I am). I have chosen to present Byzantine
> pronunciation
> > instead of "seminary" Greek pronunciation...sorry, but "haw law-gaws"
> just sticks
> > in my throat, as does "ah-pah-stah-lahs"... yet modern Greek
> pronunciation seems
> > to be so replete with letters and blends that sound the same that I
> think it would
> > be hard to learn to spell...any comments, experiences, or advice in this
> area?
>
> RB:
> I'm not sure what you mean by Byznatine. Late Byzantine (post
> 10century) WAS/IS modern pronunciation. by all means soften the
> consonants to veta, dhelta, and ghamma. Earlier Byzantine (5-10 c.)
> had an extra u-umlaut vowel. Roman-Byzantine (0-4c) had two extra
> vowels beyond modern, Hta (versus E-psilon), and the U-psilon umlaut.
> You may want to look at my 10 page PDF where a survey of evidence is
> presented in the first seven pages and then the pros and cons of 4
> systems are described (pages 7-9 "182-184")
>
> http://www.biblicalulpan.org/PDF Files/PRONSYS1 2005.pdf
>
> *For the Lord's prayer you might want to use modern so that they can
> join in whenever visiting a Greek church. (I use a Koine
> pronunciation, and it is so close to modern that I can follow along
> and am basically understood by Greeks, though those Hta's clang on
> modern Greek ears. If I'm in Greece, those Hta slide into Ita's fairly
> consistently.)
>
> >
> > Some of the kids are "grammar-phobic", too, and wouldn't know a
> predicate
> > nominative from a direct object (in English), despite having graduated
> from high
> > school and having gone to college (for some of them).
>
> RB:
> good language teaching methodology should not be dependant on grammar
> analysis anyway. if students cannot grasp, understand and use the item
> without a grammar description, the presentation and examples were
> inadequate. Use the target structure in more examples and with easy
> to grasp contexts.
>
> > I only meet with them
> > once per week for class...and I don't want to turn every Sunday into a
> language
> > marathon. What do you think would be the best approach?
>
> Barry egrapse:
> Back in the late 70's, early 80's I remember seeing a workbook
> approach that was designed to do this sort of thing (it included both
> Greek and Hebrew). Don't remember the title, don't know if it's still
> in print, but maybe someone else on this list does.
>
> Barry:
> At TAA, we begin Latin with second grade. Rather than hit them with
> all the specifics of grammar in Latin (they start getting that with
> 4th), we do Latin mottoes, "fun things to say," mythology, historical
> and cultural background. The goal is to get them used to the idea
> that Latin was a real language, and that it's doable, etc. I think
> you want to use a similar approach here, and your initial goals are
> quite laudable. Don't worry about the grammar -- most folks don't
> really learn English grammar until they have are taught a second
> language, but introduce the concepts as required to make sense out of
> what you are presenting.
>
> Barry:
> Also, remind them that "a little learning is a dangerous thing..." :)
>
> RB:
> also, greet the students in Greek, XAIRE, XAIRETE, play in Greek, tell
> some real easy, real physical stories in Greek.
>
> RB:
> I also recommend pictures with sound, and playing in Greek in class.
> Our website will announce a Greek summer school next week. We have
> finally got the venue and logistics worked out.
>
> ERRWSO
> Randall Buth
>
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