[B-Greek] Translating 2 Timothy 2:2

jabshire at t411.com jabshire at t411.com
Wed Oct 11 14:46:50 EDT 2006


Kevin,

You spelled out exactly what I was looking for.  Thanks for the clarity.  Other posts were helpful
too.  I'll meditate on this.

Jacob Abshire
http://www.t411.com


----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin W. Woodruff
To:  Jacob Abshire <jabshire at t411.com>,Biblical Greek List <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 07:30:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Translating 2 Timothy 2:2

Jacob:
 
I'll try and help. 
 
The word kai basically means "and" although it can also mean "indeed" and "also." Here it is used
as a simple connective, so I think "and is the best translation. 
 
The word ha is neuter gender of the relative pronoun and it is plural so it should be translated
"those" with the idea of "things" added because it is neuter plural.
 
the verb is akousas and is  indicative aorist active 2nd person singular and is translated "you
heard"
 
The preposition para with a genitive object means "from"
 
The word emou is the genitive object of the preposition para and emou is the emphatic form of the
first person personal pronoun ego. Since it is in an object it is translated as "me"
 
The word dia with a genitive object has the idea of "among"
 
The word pollov is the adjective describing the of the plural masculine noun marturion which is
plural genitive 
 
the word tauta is the accusative neuter plural of the demonstrative pronoun houtos and means
"these" with the things being understood  referring back to the ha 
 
the word parathou is an aorist imperitive which means "you must commit"
 
The word pistois is a dative plural of the adjective pistos. It describes the dative plural noun
anthropois which is dative because it is the it is the indirect object
 
The hoitines is the masculine plural  of hostis, the indeifinite relative pronoun and is translated
"who" referring back to "men"
 
the ikanon is the predicate adjective of the future middle deponent 3rd person plural form of the
be verb eimi .It is translated "able"
 
esontai is the future middle deponent 3rd person plural form of the be verb eimi and is translated
"who will be"
 
Didaxai is the aorist infinitive that is used to complete the idea (epexegetical) of the adjective
ikanos and is translated "to teach"
 
heterous is an adjective pronoun which accusative masculine plural, which is the direct object of
the infinitve Didaxai and should be translated "others"
 
The kai, is modifiying the heterous and is used to mean "also"
 
So a literal translation would be 
 
And those [things] which you heard from me among many witnesses, these [things] you must commit to
faithful men, who will teach others also. 
 
I hope this helps
 
 
Prof. Kevin W. Woodruff, M.Div., M.S.I.S.
Library Director/Reference Librarian, Assistant Professor of Bible, Greek, Theological Bibliography
and Research
Tennessee Temple University/Temple Baptist Seminary, 1815 Union Ave. 
Chattanooga, Tennessee 37404, United States of America
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----- Original Message ----
From: Jacob Abshire <jabshire at t411.com>
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 8:34:23 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] Translating 2 Timothy 2:2


I hesitate to even ask since I am such a new learner and cannot even stand
among you who discuss here.  Nevertheless, I humbly ask what might be a
relatively easy question to you all.  In my Bible studies, I make every
attempt to study from the Greek as I use my English translations.  Part of
my learning is seeing how the Greek was translated.

However, I am failing to see the real translation in 2 Timothy 2:2.  I was
wondering if someone could break it down and show me why and how it is
translated.  From my simple mind I see the text going different ways.  For
example, the NASB renders the text "The things which you have heard" while I
seems to read in the Greek "Indeed you have heard my teachings through many
witnesses."



I have so much to learn so I will sit back and read what you folks respond.
Thanks again for your time.  Sorry if my question is bothersome and
childish.  Good work you guys!



Jacob

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