[B-Greek] Acts 17:16 QEWROUNTOS/QEWROUNTI
George F Somsel
gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 14 18:21:17 EDT 2006
Combinations of EK with a verb do not require a genitive. I had thought about this possibility since some verbs do have such requirements. Let us take one transitive verb (It is necessary that it be transitive to have an object) and one book to examine this. And the choice is <drumroll> EKBALLW in Matthew.
This appears in 25 verses of Mt.
7.4, 5, 22
8.12, 16, 31
9.25, 33, 34, 38
10.1, 8
12.20, 24, 26, 27, 28, 35
13.52
15.17
17.19
21.12, 39
22.13
25.30
In these verses we have objects such as TO KOFOS, THN DOKON, TA PNEUMATA, hHMAS, TA DAIMONIA, THN KRISIN, etc. So far I have noted three passive constructions which would therefore not have an object which includes one case of a gen abs. It would appears thus that having EK as a preposition does NOT require a genitive object.
george
gfsomsel
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From: Bryant J. Williams III <bjwvmw at com-pair.net>
To: greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>; Elizabeth Kline <kline_dekooning at earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 5:58:15 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Acts 17:16 QEWROUNTOS/QEWROUNTI
Dear Elizabeth,
Would not EKDECOMENOU require a genitive to follow since the preposition EK
requires a genitive? With compounds this may not be necessary, but I
remember something about compound words with EK requiring a subject in the
genitive with accusative direct object such as we have here. This could also
apply to other compounds with prepositions requiring a dative, etc. Maybe
Carl could comment on this?
En Xristwi,
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III
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From: "Elizabeth Kline" <kline_dekooning at earthlink.net>
To: "greek" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 11:02 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] Acts 17:16 QEWROUNTOS/QEWROUNTI
> ACTS 17:16 EN DE TAIS AQHNAIS EKDECOMENOU AUTOUS TOU PAULOU
> PARWXUNETO TO PNEUMA AUTOU EN AUTWi QEWROUNTOS KATEIDWLON OUSAN THN
> POLIN.
>
> Parsons/Culy identify QEWROUNTOS as a genitive absolute. Barrett
> (Acts ICC) suggests that the genitive QEWROUNTOS looks back to AUTOU
> whereas QEWROUNTI (Byzantine) to AUTWi.
>
> Interesting syntax.
>
> The main clause
> PARWXUNETO TO PNEUMA AUTOU EN AUTWi
>
> with three qualifying constituents
>
> EN DE TAIS AQHNAIS
>
> EKDECOMENOU AUTOUS TOU PAULOU
>
> QEWROUNTOS KATEIDWLON OUSAN THN POLIN
>
> Curious that the identity of the main participant TOU PAULOU would be
> buried in one of the qualifying constituents.
>
>
> Elizabeth Kline
>
>
>
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