[B-Greek] Ephesians 1:4 - Adjectival prepositional phrase?

yancywsmith yancywsmith at sbcglobal.net
Mon Sep 4 16:14:43 EDT 2006


Owen,

That translation is simply impossible. If it were as you are  
suggesting, the text would read:
KAQWS EXELEXATO EN AUTWi hWi PRO KATABOLHS KOSMOU
In your translation you put
> "Just as  He predestines us in Him
> who was before the foundation of the world."

the "who" is a relative pronoun
"in him" is the 3rd personal pronoun
Eph 1:4 doesn't have both, only the latter.

yours,
Yancy Smith
yancywsmith at sbcglobal.net
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On Sep 4, 2006, at 1:55 PM, OwenW530 at aol.com wrote:

> Ephesians 1:4- KATHOS EXELEXATA hEMAS EN AUTO PRO KATABOLES KOSMOU
>
> Apologies if my transliteration is not the standard for this  
> mailing  list.
>
> I am curious as to the usage of PRO KATABOLES KOSMOU. Traditionally  
> it has
> been translated adverbially, describing EXELEXATA. However, I was  
> reading up on
>  prepositions in Daniel Wallace's textbook and noticed that he  
> stated that
> prepositional phrases that contain the genitive are often times  
> adjectival,
> though still more often than not adverbial. My question is how   
> reasonable would
> it be to take PRO KATABOLES KOMOU to be adjectival,  describing  
> AUTO? That
> would render the translation something like "Just as  He  
> predestines us in Him
> who was before the foundation of the world." Is there  any evidence  
> that
> supports or denies the adjectival prepositional  phrase?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Owen Weddle
> Starkville, MS
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