[B-Greek] Correcton re:PERIKEITAI (was "Re: Mark 9:42")

Randall Buth randallbuth at gmail.com
Wed Sep 13 12:25:56 EDT 2006


Conrad egrapsen:
>> LSJ only states that KEIMAI is used for the passive of TIQHMI. Smyth
>> however spells it out #791 "KEIMAI ... regularly used in the present
>> and imperfect instead of the perfect and pluperfect passive of
>> TIQHMI" and again #1752 "The active or the middle deponent of a
>> transitive verb used transitively or of an intransitive verb my
>> replace the passive of a transitive verb."
>>
>> The consequence of this is a morphological present/imperfect having a
>> stative aspect?
>
>Well, in the give-and-take over aorist and imperfect the last few
>days (I've said before that I don't expect to survive until such time
>as the dust has settled and there's any authentic consensus on
>aspect) there was at least one person who was inclined to deny that a
>stative aspect exists. I can't help but feel this is much more
>subjective than "scientific" linguists would concede. BUT it seems to
>me that KEIMAI is not alone here: OIDA and HESTAMAI are perfect
>tenses that function as presents, hHKW ("I've arrived" and ERRW (not
>in GNT but with sense "I'm outta here" are presents with perfect-
>tense meaning.>

This relationship of TiQENAI and KEISQAI is true for compounds as
well. for example in Epictetos the verb DIATIQENAI 'have a mindset, be
disposed towards' uses DIAKEISQAI "have a mindset" for 'perfect'-based
forms.

ERRWSO
Randall Buth
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