[B-Greek] Jn 1:47 - ALHQWS = 'true'??

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Wed Sep 13 17:15:07 EDT 2006


Yes, surely "in the true sense of the word" is the meaning of ALHQWS  
in all these expressions where the noun in question is a "class noun."

On Sep 13, 2006, at 4:00 PM, George F Somsel wrote:

> in attributive relation w. substantives (Pla., Phd. 129e EKEINOS  
> ESTIN hO ALHQWS OURANOS; Plut., Mor. 352c; SIG 834, 6; Ruth 3:12  
> ALHQWS AGXISTEUS EGW EIMI; 4 Macc 11:23; Jos., Ant. 9, 256 hO A.  
> QEOS) IDE A. ISRAHLITHS here is a real Israelite (lit. ‘really an  
> Is.’) J 1:47
>   Arndt, W., Danker, F. W., & Bauer, W. (2000). A Greek-English  
> lexicon of the New Testament and other early Christian literature.  
> "Based on Walter Bauer's Griechisch-deutsches Wr̲terbuch zu  
> den Schriften des Neuen Testaments und der frhchristlichen [sic]  
> Literatur, sixth edition, ed. Kurt Aland and Barbara Aland, with  
> Viktor Reichmann and on previous English editions by W.F. Arndt,  
> F.W. Gingrich, and F.W. Danker." (3rd ed.) (44). Chicago:  
> University of Chicago Press.
>
>
>
>
> Webb <webb at selftest.net> wrote:  I don't get why most of my  
> translations make Jn 1:47 say that Nathaniel is a
> "true Israelite". The only verb I see to go with the adverb ALHQWS  
> is (OUK)
> ESTIN, whose subject is DOLOS. Agreeing with NRSV, I would have  
> rendered the
> statement, "Look! An Israelite who truly has no dishonesty in him!"
>
>
>
> If I'm missing a nuance of how adverbs can function, can someone  
> give me
> some examples of similar statements to help me get a feel for it?
>
>
>
> Webb Mealy
>
>
>
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