[B-Greek] Translation of Eph:2:8-10

Gene Baker ekbaker at essex1.com
Sat Sep 30 14:41:15 EDT 2006


Ted,

  I can give you my impression, and then leave the technical analysis to 
those far more qualified than I.

  TH GAR CARITI ESTE SESOSMENOI DIA PISTEWS

  Your translation of this clause seems more specific than the  text 
warrants.  I really don't feel comfortable with amplifying ESTE SESWSMENOI 
much beyond "you have been saved," or "you are saved."  I think either one 
would do, but the first rendering would remind me that there is a perfect 
something-or-other involved.  It seems that sometimes the biggest challenge 
for translators is deciding when to stop when deciding how much of "what it 
means" should be included when determining "what it says."

  One clause is all this old geezer can handle.  I would expect good 
observations from the regular contributers.

  best regards,

  Gene Baker
  Sterling, IL



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Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 11:35 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] Translation of Eph:2:8-10


>I am offering this translation of Eph.2:8-10 that I have been working on. 
>It will be greatly appreciated if you will consider it for the forum.
>
>  For by grace are you turned to Christ within the pale of saving privilege 
> through faith: and this not out of yourselves without faith: it is the 
> gift of GOD- not of  works the law commands you to do,lest any man should 
> boast. For GOD has made us what we are,created in Christ Jesus unto good 
> works, which GOD prepared in advance that we live in the state of them.
>
>
> 
> Ted Vines
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