[B-Greek] GRAFW of remote causation
Carl W. Conrad
cwconrad2 at mac.com
Mon Apr 2 14:13:51 EDT 2007
At the moment I am away from the more useful reference works, but what comes
to mind immediately is that the treatises of Aristotle are said to have been composed
from lecture notes taken down by students; likewise it is said that the discourses of
Epictetus were "recorded" by Appian (the historian). I don't know whether the verb
GRAFW was used for the composition of Aristotle's or of Epictetus' lectures.
Carl W. Conrad
On Monday, April 02, 2007, at 12:48PM, "Elizabeth Kline" <kline_dekooning at earthlink.net> wrote:
>JN 21:24 hOUTOS ESTIN hO MAQHTHS hO MARTURWN PERI TOUTWN KAI hO
>GRAYAS TAUTA, KAI OIDAMEN hOTI ALHQHS AUTOU hH MARTURIA ESTIN.
>
>Richard Bauckham [1] challenges the notion that GRAFW was used in the
>NT with a subject/agent who was only remotely involved with the
>document which was produced. A modern example would be Ferdinand
>deSaussure's Cour de Linguistique Generale which was compiled from
>student notes. I don't intend to start a discussion of authorship of
>any particular NT book, this is a question about the lexical
>semantics of GRAFW.
>
>Bauckham mentions J.N. Bernard (ICC, John p.713) as an often cited
>source for this idea. However, Bernard didn't really take the idea
>very far and his proposal was refuted as early as 1930 by F.R.M
>Hitchcock "The Use of GRAPEIN," JTS 31 1930, pp. 271-75. A more
>radical treatment of GRAFW (remote causation) is found in TDNT Vol. 1
>p. 743 Gottlob Schrenk. Bauckham sets forth to refute G.Schrenk on
>this issue.
>
>No one questions that GRAFW can be used in the NT of someone giving
>dictation (e.g. Paul), the notion that I would like to discuss here
>is strictly GRAFW used in the same sense that Ferdinand deSaussure is
>the remote cause of Cour de Linguistique Generale. Can anyone bring
>to light evidence that GRAFW was used in that manner in the GNT or in
>other ancient Greek texts?
>
>
>Elizabeth Kline
>
>
>[1] Richard Bauckham, Jesus and the Eyewitnesses: The Gospels as
>Eyewitness Testimony , Eerdmans, 2006 ISBN: 080283162 pp. 360f.
>
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