[B-Greek] Rev 7:4

Juan Stam juanstam at ice.co.cr
Tue Apr 3 09:40:54 EDT 2007


Does "Joseph" appear in lists of the tribes, along with Manassah?  The list
in Rev 7 is certainly very irregular

Juan Stam, Costa Rica


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Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Rev 7:4

Juan Stam wrote:
> 	
> The very important tribe of Ephrain is also omitted, though curiously his
> father Joseph (never a tribe) is included. As to Dan, although Testament
of
> Dan speaks of the apostasy of Dan, it also tells of their repentance and
> restoration. In the list of tribal territories in Ezek 48 (supposedly
> eschatological in the thought of Ezekiel), the tribe of Dan is in first
> place.
>   

HH: The name of Joseph is used as a tribal name, sometimes for Ephraim 
and sometimes for the northern tribes, since Ephraim was the most 
prominent of those tribes:

Psa. 77:15 With your mighty arm you redeemed your people, the 
descendants of Jacob and Joseph. Selah
Psa. 78:67 Then he rejected the tents of Joseph, he did not choose the 
tribe of Ephraim;
Psa. 80:1 ¶ Hear us, O Shepherd of Israel, you who lead Joseph like a 
flock; you who sit enthroned between the cherubim, shine forth
Psa. 81:5 He established it as a statute for Joseph when he went out 
against Egypt, where we heard a language we did not understand.
Psa. 105:17 and he sent a man before them — Joseph, sold as a slave.
Ezek. 37:16 “Son of man, take a stick of wood and write on it, 
‘Belonging to Judah and the Israelites associated with him.’ Then take 
another stick of wood, and write on it, ‘Ephraim’s stick, belonging to 
Joseph and all the house of Israel associated with him.’
Ezek. 37:19 say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am 
going to take the stick of Joseph — which is in Ephraim’s hand — and of 
the Israelite tribes associated with him, and join it to Judah’s stick, 
making them a single stick of wood, and they will become one in my hand.’
Ezek. 47:13 ¶ This is what the Sovereign LORD says: “These are the 
boundaries by which you are to divide the land for an inheritance among 
the twelve tribes of Israel, with two portions for Joseph.
Ezek. 48:32 ¶ “On the east side, which is 4,500 cubits long, will be 
three gates: the gate of Joseph, the gate of Benjamin and the gate of Dan.
Amos 5:6 Seek the LORD and live, or he will sweep through the house of 
Joseph like a fire; it will devour, and Bethel will have no one to 
quench it.
Amos 5:15 Hate evil, love good; maintain justice in the courts. Perhaps 
the LORD God Almighty will have mercy on the remnant of Joseph.
Amos 6:6 You drink wine by the bowlful and use the finest lotions, but 
you do not grieve over the ruin of Joseph.
Obad. 1:18 The house of Jacob will be a fire and the house of Joseph a 
flame; the house of Esau will be stubble, and they will set it on fire 
and consume it. There will be no survivors from the house of Esau.” The 
LORD has spoken.
Zech. 10:6 “I will strengthen the house of Judah and save the house of 
Joseph. I will restore them because I have compassion on them. They will 
be as though I had not rejected them, for I am the LORD their God and I 
will answer them.

Yours,
Harold Holmyard

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