[B-Greek] Rom 6:17b;Fronted Relative with Demonstrative Sense

yancywsmith yancywsmith at sbcglobal.net
Sun Apr 8 10:41:40 EDT 2007


What is the difference between saying "proleptic" and "fronted  
relative"? Other than the fact that proleptic is based upon Greek  
roots? If we were going to use "proleptic" the question would be, is  
there any special meaning connected with its position, such as  
demonstrative force.

"the form/model/stamp of teaching to which you were delivered"
vs.
"that form/model/stamp of teaching to which you were delivered"

Yancy Smith
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On Apr 8, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Barry wrote:

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> Subject: [B-Greek] Rom 6:17b;Fronted Relative with Demonstrative Sense
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>> I have phrased it to expose what I see as salient structures in
>> 17-18. The phrase in question is EIS hON PAREDOQHTE TUPON DIDACHS.
>> On the grounds that (1) the phrase has no clearly defined antecedent,
>> (2) that 6:16-18 can function just fine without the clunky sounding
>> 6:17b, and (3) on other more theological grounds, several
>> interpreters from Bultmann to Jewett have argued that EIS hON
>> PAREDOQHTE TUPON DIDACHS in 6:17 is an interpolation, perhaps by the
>> interpolator of Rom 16:17-20. Be that as it may, what is sauce for
>> the goose is sauce for the gander and others have argued on
>> theological grounds that the relative is masculine but not referring
>> to TUPOS, rather it is referring to Jesus. I think most scholars see
>> the reference to TUPON but would quibble with the interpolation
>> theories and attempt to see how the phrase contributes to Paul's
>> rhetoric in Rom 6.
>
> The simplest explanation is that the it is a proleptic use of the  
> relative.
>
> N.E. Barry Hofstetter
>
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