[B-Greek] Do You Love Me?

Andy Kaylor andy_kaylor at yahoo.com
Mon Apr 23 17:30:51 EDT 2007


OK, so what about Peter's third answer?  PANTA SU OIDAS, SU GINWSKEIS hOTI FILW SE

In newbie vocabulary mode (which I'm limited to at present), Peter says something like, "You know all things.  You come to know that I love you."

Could we read anything into the transition from OIDAS to GINWSKEIS?  Is there process or development implied?  Or is this just further (stylistic?) variety in the vocabulary?

Andy Kaylor
Beaverton, OR

----- Original Message ----
From: Carl W. Conrad <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
To: s.a.wells at insightbb.com
Cc: B-Greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 1:16:21 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Do You Love Me?


On Apr 23, 2007, at 1:48 PM, s.a.wells at insightbb.com wrote:

> LEGEI AUTWi TO TRITON SIMWN IWANNOU, PHILEIS ME? ELUPHQH hO PETROS  
> hOTI EIPEN AUTWi TO TRITON FILEIS ME? KAI LEGEI AUTWi KURIE, PANTA  
> SU OIDAS, SU GINWSKEIS hOTI FILW SE.
>
> Does the fact that John as narrator says that Jesus asked him the  
> third time (Jesus himself uses PHILEW instead of AGAPAW this third  
> time) argue for synonymy of the two terms in this context?  The  
> rest of the verse seems to me to suggest this.

I would think so myself (and i don't think there's any intended  
difference between FILEW and AGAPAW in this passage. Far more  
significant, I think, is the 3x question and answer, signifying the  
rehabilitation of Peter after his 3x denial. It's been pointed out in  
previous threads on this matter that there are the other synonyms in  
this sequence also: BOSKE TA ARNIA, POIMAINE TA PROBATA, BOSKE TA  
PROBATA. Are we to suppose that these verbs and nouns refer to  
different types of pasturing and different animals?

Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828) 675-4243
cwconrad2 at mac.com
WWW: http://www.ioa.com/~cwconrad/


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