[B-Greek] LALEW as "babbling" in Biblical literature?
Daniel Hanshew
sunday090274 at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 8 08:58:42 EDT 2007
It seems to me that Acts 2.7 is not clearly an example of babbling. It comes in v. 13 that the speakers are accused of being drunk and this it seems to be because of some type of contention. Thus, Peter's response as George has noted.
Dan Hanshew
George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com> wrote:
Now that you mention it, there is one very famous case in Acts 2.7
á¼Î¾Î¯ÏÏανÏο δὲ καὶ á¼Î¸Î±Ïμαζον λέγονÏεÏ· οá½Ï ἰδοὺ á¼
ÏανÏÎµÏ Î¿á½Ïοί εἰÏιν οἱ λαλοῦνÏÎµÏ Îαλιλαá¿Î¿Î¹;
ECISTANTO DE KAI EQAUMAZON LEGONTES, "OUX IDOU hAPANTES hOUTOI EISIN hOI LALOUNTES GALILAIOI?"
In response to this Peter replies
Î¿á½ Î³á½°Ï á½¡Ï á½Î¼Îµá¿Ï á½ÏολαμβάνεÏε οá½Ïοι μεθÏοÏ
Ïιν, á¼ÏÏιν Î³á½°Ï á½¥Ïα ÏÏίÏη Ïá¿Ï ἡμέÏαÏ,
"OU GAR hWS hUMEIS hUPOLAMBANETE hOUTOI MEQUOUSIN, ESTIN GAR hWRA TRITH THS hHMERAS."
george
gfsomsel
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From: Larry Overton
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Subject: [B-Greek] LALEW as "babbling" in Biblical literature?
BAGD points out that from Sophocles on down, the verb LALEW in classical
Greek usually meant "chatter, babble," and that this verb is found in
secular authors not nearly as frequently as in LXX (BAGD, p. 463; cf. also
Liddell-Scott, p. 872).
I have recently set about searching to see if I could find examples of LALEW
having this sense of "chattering" or "babbling" in Biblical/Apocryphal
Greek. Thus far, I have a couple of possible candidates.
1. In 2 Samuel 19:29 (v. 30, Heb & LXX), David says to Mephibosheth, hINA TI
LALEIS ETI TOUS LOGOUS SOU? In verses 26-28 (27-29), Mephibosheth was
prattling on in his address to David, throwing in flowery speech in his
attempt to curry favor with the king. In his reply, David essentially cuts
to the chase and says "Why do you yet speak [LALEIS ETI] of these matters of
yours?" It would seem to me (unless I'm missing something) that in this
context LALEW could have the sense of prattling on, babbling.
2. In 1 Esdras 3:21, the debilitating effects of wine are mentioned,
including a statement that wine PANTA DIA TALANTWN POIEI LALEIN, "it makes
all to speak by talents" (or "makes everyone talk in millions." RSV, NRSV;
cf. NEB, REB). It seems to me that this statement is an idiomatic expression
indicating that wine can make a man prattle on and/or babble.
I would welcome input on my impressions here, whether in the form of
corroboration or correction. Also, I would appreciate list members pointing
out other possible examples in Biblical Greek of LALEW as "babbling."
Larry G. Overton
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