[B-Greek] unicode

Peter Bekins pbekins at fuse.net
Thu Aug 16 13:33:53 EDT 2007


Carl,

Very good, then I will defer to you.

Pete

On Aug 16, 2007, at 1:15 PM, Carl W. Conrad wrote:

>
> On Aug 16, 2007, at 1:09 PM, Peter Bekins wrote:
>
>> Carl,
>>
>> Unicode is indeed "plain text", but when I received the digest in
>> "plain text mode" it included the header:
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> I assume that this is set to "us-ascii" by the digest program based
>> on the option "plain text" defined as "not-MIME". Plain text SMTP e-
>> mail is limited to 7-bit ASCII format. MIME is required to  
>> transmit e-
>> mail in other text encodings such as UTF-8.
>>
>>  From lurking on the list,  I have noticed that most often people
>> having issues with unicode are those who are subscribing to the
>> digest, and I assume therefore that this is the main culprit for such
>> problems.
>>
>> If you are not subscribed to the digest, but are having problems with
>> unicode then indeed it is either your client's text encoding settings
>> or those of the person who sent the e-mail.
>
> I have no problem with Unicode Greek text, when it's rightly  
> entered, in individual messages or in the digest; I subscribe to  
> both and I take the digest in plain-text format, not MIME. I have  
> found often when a message uses Unicode Greek text that I have to  
> change the text coding to Unicode UTF-8 in order to read it  
> correctly; otherwise it appears as gobbledygook; and it always  
> appears as gobbledygook if it hasn't been entered correctly --  
> unless one happens to have in one's own computer system the Greek  
> font in which the original was typed (or, more likely, pasted).
>
> Carl
>
>>
>> On Aug 16, 2007, at 12:46 PM, Carl W. Conrad wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 16, 2007, at 12:34 PM, Peter Bekins wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bert,
>>>>
>>>> This came up on B-Hebrew as well. I receive the digest of both  
>>>> lists
>>>> and I have never been able to read the unicode. I have a Mac so  
>>>> I was
>>>> pretty sure it had nothing to do with UTF-8 settings. Then someone
>>>> finally mentioned that there is an option when you first registered
>>>> for the list that sets whether you want to receive plain text or
>>>> MIME-
>>>> encoded messages. Mine was set to plain text for both which  
>>>> explains
>>>> why Unicode doesn't work.
>>>>
>>>> To change the setting go to the B-Greek page  http://
>>>> lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-greek. At the bottom of the  
>>>> page
>>>> enter your e-mail into the field labeled "unsubscribe or edit
>>>> options" and click the button. Enter your password and precede  
>>>> to the
>>>> options page. Set "Get MIME or Plain Text Digests" to MIME.
>>>>
>>>> For future reference this is most likely the culprit and not e-mail
>>>> client settings unless you are using a really old e-mail client.
>>>
>>> You can change your DIGEST settings from plain-text to MIME, but
>>> that doesn't really affect the Unicode because UTF-8 is in fact
>>> plain-text. And there's no option to receive messages individually
>>> in MIME-format -- and most of us can read the Unicode Greek texts
>>> that are correctly entered.
>>>
>>> Carl W. Conrad
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 5
>>>>> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:26:12 +0000
>>>>> From: "Bert de Haan" <b_dehaan at sympatico.ca>
>>>>> Subject: [B-Greek] Unicode
>>>>> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>>>>> Message-ID: <BAY122-F379D9255E62C4EDF8966518BDF0 at phx.gbl>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know why I can't read the unicode when I read the e-
>>>>> mail but I
>>>>> can if I go to the archives to read the same message?  Does that
>>>>> have
>>>>> something to do with the B-Greek's system or do I have to change
>>>>> something
>>>>> in my computer settings?
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> Bert de Haan.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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