[B-Greek] Titus 2:11

frjsilver at optonline.net frjsilver at optonline.net
Fri Aug 17 11:53:07 EDT 2007


Dear Friends --

This seems to me to be a clear case of -- what can I call it in English?  -- maybe an 'elliptic referent'?
It's not all that complicated or in need of elaborate explanations.

I read this line as saying:

EPEFANH GAR H XARIS TOU QEOU (H XARIS H) SWTHRIOS PASIN ANQRWPOIS.

Imagine the speaker pausing after QEOU, and maybe you can 'feel' it as I do.

Does that help?

Peace and blessings to all.

Father James Silver

Monk James
Orthodox Church in America

----- Original Message -----
From: Denise Parkes 
Date: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:01 pm
Subject: [B-Greek] Titus 2:11
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org

> Titus 2:11: EPEFANH GAR H XARIS TOU QEOU SWTHRIOS PASIN ANQRWPOIS.
> 
> This verse seems to be straitforward. Both the NASB and the RSV 
> translate 
> this verse thus: For the grace of God has appeared, bringing 
> salvation to 
> all men.
> 
> But the NIV and the KJV add the word "that" to give a different 
> meaning ie: 
> For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men.
> 
> This NIV/KJV translation seems awkward, especially when the word 
> "that" has 
> to be added to make it work.
> 
> Is there ambiguity in the original Greek?
> 
> Looking forward to your help,
> 
> Denise Parkes
> 
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