[B-Greek] LXX -Isaiah 9:6 and Daniel 9:25

Ken Penner ken.penner at acadiau.ca
Thu Dec 20 13:20:36 EST 2007


I'll comment on the Isaiah passage since I'm writing the Brill Septuagint commentary on Isaiah.

Some resources that might be helpful: 

To see how a Hebrew word is translated into Greek in a particular instance in Isaiah: http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/gopher/text/religion/biblical/parallel/40.Isaiah.par

To see the sense of the Greek of Isaiah:
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/nets/edition/33-esaias-nets.pdf

Field's Hexapla:
http://rosetta.reltech.org/cgi-bin/Ebind2html/TC/FieldOrigenv2?seq=458

Sinaiticus:
http://alpha.reltech.org/cgi-bin/Ebind2html/BibleMSS/TischendorfSinv2?seq=94

The Hebrew SHALOM and SAR are in fact translated, but the syntax of the Hebrew was read quite differently.

His name will be called  "Great council's messenger." For I will lead peace (SHALOM) onto the leaders (SAR); peace and wholeness to him.

Now with that said, many Greek manuscripts have readings that sound more familiar to most of us, e.g.,:

θαυμαστος συμβουλος θεος ισχυρος εξουσιαστης αρχων ειρηνης πατηρ του μελλοντος αιωνος

But these readings are considered secondary.

Ken M. Penner, Ph.D. (McMaster)
Acadia/Greek&Hebrew
Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic vocabulary memorization software: 
http://purl.org/net/kmpenner/flash

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of David Rollins
> Sent: December 20, 2007 12:20 PM
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> Subject: [B-Greek] LXX -Isaiah 9:6 and Daniel 9:25
> 
> I hope this is an intelligible question.  Looking at these 
> two passages in the LXX I found that the Hebrew - SAR-SHALOM- 
> ( not sure how to transliterate that ) - Prince of Peace- in 
> Isaiah 9:6 (5) is not translated.  I am puzzled by that - any 
> answers?? Also, in Daniel
> 9:25 the Hebrew - MESIACH-NAGID - The LXX -Dan.TH has only 
> XRISTOU AND Dan.OG does not have that part  of the verse. 
> What is an explanation for that?
> 
> For any of you who are much better at Hebrew than myself another
> question: Is there any real difference between the two Hebrew 
> words for "prince" - SAR and NAGIB.  My only resource is 
> Brown-Driver and Briggs.  Their listings for each word seem 
> to have a lot of overlap.  
> I initially was looking at both passages to see how the LXX 
> translated each Hebrew word and found that in both passages 
> the terms are left out.  I hope these are not ignorant questions!
> 
> David Rollins
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