[B-Greek] Eph 2:2 and syntactic significance of TOU PNEUMATOS

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Tue Feb 13 11:50:31 EST 2007


On Feb 13, 2007, at 11:11 AM, George F Somsel wrote:

> Yes, this is fairly typical of Wallace.  "If you would translate it  
> thus, it is X; but, if you would translate it otherwise, it is Y."
>   You will encounter this in a number of places in Wallace.

I think this is all too true. Without for a moment suggesting that  
Wallace's grammar is useless (I do frequently consult it and I think  
one ought to have it as a reference work, so long as one has at least  
Smyth {indispensable}), but it is aimed not at students trying to  
expand or develop reading ability in Biblical Greek but more for the  
exegetical problem solver who wants to produce a supposedly accurate  
English translation.

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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Elizabeth Kline <kline_dekooning at earthlink.net>
> To: greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:45:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Eph 2:2 and syntactic significance of TOU  
> PNEUMATOS
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>
> On Feb 13, 2007, at 6:43 AM, George F Somsel wrote:
>
>> I think you're missing something in Wallace.  If you back up from
>> where he lists Eph 2.2 and denies that it is a genitive of
>> apposition you will see that he proposes a test to distinguish
>> whether or not it is a genitive of apposition based upon HOW YOU
>> WOULD TRANSLATE the passage.  he states
>>
>> 2) Genitive of Apposition vs. Simple Apposition
>> Both will fit the “which is” formula so another test needs to be
>> used to distinguish the two. If the word “of” can be used before
>> the genitive in question, then it is a genitive of apposition. If
>> it cannot, then it is simple apposition related to another genitive.
>
> Doing grammatical analysis of Greek based on how it might be rendered
> into English is a policy which has been rightly criticized in this
> forum on numerous occasions. If this is how Wallace does his work
> then I would just ignore him.
>
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> Elizabeth Kline
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Carl W. Conrad
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