[B-Greek] Judges 13:5 - thou shalt conceive

George F Somsel gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 17 07:01:45 EST 2007


It is the A text (Alexandrinus) which has both hECEIS and TECHi.  There is also another textual tradition (yes, Vaticanus) which has 
 
hOTI SU EN GASTRI EXEIS KAI TECHi hUION 


While this has a present with regard to the state of Samson's mother, the anouncement of the birth is still in the future tense.  The author may have been reading from this text.
 
george
gfsomsel
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----- Original Message ----
From: Carl W. Conrad <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
To: schmuel <schmuel at nyc.rr.com>
Cc: b-greek-lists.ibiblio.org <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 6:48:50 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Judges 13:5 - thou shalt conceive


On Feb 17, 2007, at 5:06 AM, schmuel wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> Judges 13:5 (KJB)
> For, lo, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son;
> and no razor shall come on his head:
> for the child shall be a Nazarite unto God from the womb:
> and he shall begin to deliver Israel out of the hand of the  
> Philistines.
>
>   I recently ran into a writer that claims that the Greek of Judges  
> 13:5 -
>
> Judges 13:5
> idou su en gastri exeis kai texh uion (2nd sng)
>
>   (I am using his transcription)

BG Transliteration: IDOU SU EN GASTRI hEXEIS KAI TEXHi hUION

> "it should be understood as 'behold, you are pregnant'
> There is no reason to believe that Judges 13:5 should represent a  
> future."
>
> Any Greek ideas can be shared here.
>
> I haven't checked, but this is likely the Vaticanus reading ?
> So I dunno if there are variants of significance (e.g Bzyantine vs.  
> Vaticanus).
>
> And if folks would like to share about the Hebrew, Aramaic or Latin  
> of the
> verse,  especially the Hebrew harah, email me and we could do that in
> an appropriate forum.

Perhaps it will suffice to note here that KJV got it right, that the  
forms hEXEIS and TEXHi are in fact future tense and you should  
suggest to the writer in question that he or she begin some lessons  
in Biblical Greek.

Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828) 675-4243
cwconrad2 at mac.com
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