[B-Greek] Relationship of words within a list

Eddie Mishoe edmishoe at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 7 10:20:16 EST 2007


There is another list. See Romans 5:3-5. There may be
others but this comes immediately to mind.

Eddie Mishoe

--- cwestf5155 at aol.com wrote:

>  Hi Mitch,
>  
>  I would assume that the order has meaning rather
> than being random--particularly since there is a
> patterned progression.
>  
>  I am interested in the word
> EPICORHGHSATE/EPICORHGEW as a hint as to what is
> going on. It can be glossed as "supply", "give",
> "provide", "support", "add", etc. It sounds more
> towards the line of supplement--but may be corrected
> in this. I don't have many analytical tools on hand
>  
>  Given the previous occurrence of PISTIV/PISTIS in
> the point of departure in the letter in 1:1 (and I
> would be influenced by the relative importance of
> faith compared to the other qualities in not only
> Pauline material, but also the more closely related
> Jude and 1 Peter), I interpret that faith is
> foundational and the focus,
> supported/supplemented/refined by the other
> qualities, each in turn.
>  
>  In order for faith to be effective and productive
> (the opposites of v. 8 ARGOUS and AKARRPOUS) it must
> be further qualified or enriched. I interpret the
> qualities as prioritized because of the progressive
> pattern a/b, b/c, c/d: first concentrate on
> ARETHi--normally it appears to be taken as ethical
> (virtue), but maybe George would suggest it means
> concentrating on being excellent at having
> faith--kind of like Paul's studying to show oneself
> approved by God. And then supplement the virtue or
> excellence with knowledge. 
>  
>  Therefore, I don't think virtue comes from
> knowledge--in this case if we were to give it a
> temporal orientation, virtue precedes knowledge.
> Hmmmm. What a concept.
>  
>  But in the end all items on the list are presented
> as being kind of organic in v. 8 where they all have
> to be present and increasing together, nurturing
> each other.
>  
>  Cindy Westfall
>  McMaster Divinity College
>     
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: mitchlarramore at yahoo.com
>  To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>  Sent: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 7:12 PM
>  Subject: [B-Greek] Relationship of words within a
> list
>  
>   KAI AUTO TOUTO DE SPOUDHN PASAN PAREISENEGKANTES
> EPICORHGHSATE EN THi PISTEI hUMWN THN ARETHN, EN DE
> THi ARETHi THN GHWSIN, EN DE THi GNWSEI THN
> EGCRATEIAN......THN AGAPHN
> 
> (I note a consistent pattern of EN THi noun...THN
> noun)
> 
> 2 Peter 1.5-7 has a list of characteristics we are
> to
> add/supply to our faith (fem sing). I don't know if
> it
> is coincidence or some kind of rhetorical device,
> but
> every noun that is to be added is also feminine
> singular. But my question really concerns the order.
> Are there other lists in Greek that would help
> explain
> the relationship or order of the nouns listed, and
> perhaps between each noun. 
> 
> For example, we are to add to our faith virtue. To
> virtue we are to add knowledge. What is the reason
> for
> this order? Does virtue 'come from' knowledge? Does
> virtue exist only after some knowledge has been
> acquired? To knowledge we are to add self-control.
> How
> does self-control contribute to knowledge? etc...
> I'm
> just wondering if there are other lists in Greek
> whereby we might know the relationship these words
> on
> the list have to each other. Or, are they better
> seen
> as just a list without an intended relationship
> between/among the words?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mitch Larramore
> Sugar Land, Texas
> 
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