[B-Greek] EN + human locative of sphere
Brian Abasciano
bvabasciano at gmail.com
Mon Jan 8 13:10:52 EST 2007
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
To: "Brian Abasciano" <bvabasciano at gmail.com>
Cc: <wayne_leman at sil.org>; <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] EN + human locative of sphere
>
> On Jan 8, 2007, at 12:17 PM, Brian Abasciano wrote:
>
>> Wayne,
>>
>> The OT is really the main background for this feature of NT thought and
>> theology (in my opinion). So you should look there. I don't have time to
>> look the references up for you, but I would suggest doing a search on
>> the LXX Greek phrases (of course you could go to the Hebrew instead or
>> in addition) for the equivalents of "in you/ me/him/Isaac/Jacob/David"
>> [there is no one for "in Abraham" I believe, though you will find ones
>> referring to Abraham in some of the other references]. Not all of these
>> will be of the type you are looking for, but you should be able to find
>> them easily enough.
>>
>> God bless!
>>
>> Brian Abasciano
>>
>> Responding to:
>>
>> Would any of you be able to come up with a few examples of EN + a human
>> locative of sphere in corpora other than the N.T.? I am trying to find
>> out
>> how widespread was usage parallel to EN XRISTW, EN KURIW, etc. outside
>> the
>> N.T. corpus. I've tried Perseus but I'm not very good at using that
>> resource.
>
> I'm not altogether convinced that this is really a locative at all,
> although it may have roots in locative phrases with preposition EN. But
> I've been somewhat fascinated by the expansion of EN + dative phrases in
> the GNT: we have the clearly instrumental usages (EN PNEUMATI hAGIWi) but
> we have also what seems to me (without having made any careful study of
> it) a not-very-sharp distinction between EIS + acc. of the person and EN
> + dat. of the person; PISTEUW is used both ways (as also with EPI +
> dative of thing or person). There may be a semantic distinction between
> these prepositional usages, but I'm not altogether sure about it.
>
> Brian suggests OT LXX phrases are worth exploring and I'm sure that's
> true; I'm wondering whether some of these EN + dative phrases don't
> reflect a Hebrew L' + proper noun or pronoun.
>
> Carl W. Conrad
> Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
> 1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828) 675-4243
> cwconrad2 at mac.com
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>
>
I think you will find that many if not all of the relevant occurrences will
turn up the Hebrew preposition b typically translated "in".
God bless,
Brian Abasciano
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